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York Ebor Meeting

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How bad will the thunderstorms on Monday be? Are we wanting to back soft ground horses for the first day or two?

As someone who likes a bet there's no better place to back a winner than York. I hear the racetrack is lovely for a day out.

Lots to talk about then.

I am interested in a horse of Alan Kings's called Inchicore. I think she will appreciate potential cut in the ground and the extra trip of 2 miles should be fine based on her staying on fourth in the John Smiths Cup.

She is currently entered in a staying handicap on Wednesday where she would have a big chance. She's also in the Ebor but she wouldn't currently be making the cut for that with a mark in the nineties.

Soapy Stevens is another good horse entered up in the same race on Wednesday but who threw his race away at Goodwood when hanging badly during the race. He did well to finish in the first four given that. I am not sure how he would handle potential soft ground though.

There's a few horses being touted for handicaps by our forumites. I like Northern Express a bit for Thursday as he was fourth to a horse I think has a lot of potential in Fresh at Ascot..while the fifth horse won nicely enough today. The Hannon filly System has scope for improvement but this race looks very hot and I'd be surprised if she could get involved against the likely opposition. I don't think either of the above two would want soft ground though.

I know Euro likes a William Haggas trained horse called Golden Voice in that race so maybe he can tell us more about that.

Are we all still seemingly so keen on John Leeper in the Ebor? What horses would a soft ground Ebor bring into play?
 
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Marb said:
I know Euro likes a William Haggas trained horse called Golden Voice in that race so maybe he can tell us more about that.
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Like him. Went into the tracker when he was second to Exminster at the track in May despite being slowly away and coming from the rear on a day when you had to be up with the pace. Bullet Force was in behind and has franked the form a couple of times since. After that GV won a couple of smallish field 7f handicaps at Sandown and in the second one he looked like he'd really thrive for a step-up in trip. I'm tracking the second from that race and he's been beaten at Newmarket since when he was given too much to do and he's out at Kempton on Tuesday.


Other than that I like Mishriff in the Juddmonte, Baaeed is too short. I have a nice price about Royal Aclaim apost and with the weather forecast I've had a little on Aldaary in the City of York just in case they get enough for him to run.
 
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I haven’t looked too closely yet, but I think 5/2 Nostrum in the Acombe seems a steal and Dramatised at 6/4 is generous in the Lowther.
 
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Are you being facetious again, DO? :)

He was mentioned several times on the anti-post thread.
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I wasn't being facetious, no.

I genuinely don't recall the link between JL and the Ebor. I do recall JL getting mentions in the run up to the races he's been contesting but I don't read all posts on all threads.

Then again, it's entirely possible I was involved in the discussions and just don't remember them. Be kind to me and put it down to age. :)
 
Desert Orchid said:
I wasn't being facetious, no.

I genuinely don't recall the link between JL and the Ebor. I do recall JL getting mentions in the run up to the races he's been contesting but I don't read all posts on all threads.

Then again, it's entirely possible I was involved in the discussions and just don't remember them. Be kind to me and put it down to age. :)
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Haha aw bless ya.

Here's the link to the relevent page of the anti post thread.

https://www.talkinghorses.co.uk/for...Post-Punting-Plans-Propositions-Thread/page68

You was "tempted for the Ebor."
 
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Goodness, I did say that! :lol:

To put it in context, though, it was the idea of the hose being plotted up for the race and the idea of preserving a mark of around 107 when he was being talked about as a Derby contender. The third in the Derby last year got an RPR of 112 and, for me, that wouldn't be good enough to win an Ebor off 107 but the idea of a proper plot appeals to me. Take that out of the context and there's nothing in his form to suggest he'll be winning an Ebor off his mark.
 
What about the horse who Euro tipped up at Goodwood called Trawlerman. He could just get in the race by the looks of it.

Trawlerman looks likely to improve again from that Goodwood run. He is also in the Lonsdale Cup though. The current favourite Earl Of Tyrone is very interesting aswell.

I need to check his Irish form.

Of the bigger priced horses the French horse Road To Arc is interesting. A group 2 and listed race winner on soft ground in Italy and very lightly raced too. He would comfortably make the cut with a rating of 106 and maybe he could out run the odds on the day provided the rain arrives as forecasted?
 
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Im going on Thursday gonna have a little e.w on Poptronic in the Oaks

I think she's improving and ran a blinder last time staying on after trying to make the running

Around the 25/1 mark atm
 
A shame for Outsider that Alligator Alley doesn't run on Wednesday in the sprint handicap.

Edited. I might take a chance on Zarzyni.
 
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Euronymous said:
Other than that I like Mishriff in the Juddmonte, Baaeed is too short. I have a nice price about Royal Aclaim apost and with the weather forecast I've had a little on Aldaary in the City of York just in case they get enough for him to run.
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Backed Lord Protector in the Sky Bet handicap on Friday. Ran on well from an unpromising position at Goodwood over 10 and he is unexposed over 12. Bred to relish it. 12/1
 
I'll be having something on Nomadic Empire too, for the same reasons.

I've gone in fairly heavily on Aikhal (7/2 BOG) in the Voltigeur. I'm loath to oppose Charlie Appleby but I do think Aikhal is probably a fair percentage call. Lightly raced, he reappeared in the mile of the St James’s Palace before winning a G3 over 10f at the Curragh and he is bred to improve again for this further step up in trip. He holds a St Leger entry as well as some 10f G1s but is also in the Melbourne Cup.
 
Interesting entry for sure. I was all over Changing... for this ante-post. Might be an indicator of Aikhal's merit that his trainer relies solely on him.

Secret State is a nice horse but this is a completely different test than his big field handicap wins.
 
When Baeed hits the 2f mark Mishriff will take him to the trenches

This is Mishriffs cup final and it'll be close
 
I didn’t do my ratings for this race and probably won’t have a bet. It should be between the ‘big two’ but the way Mishriff has been starting his races this season is off-putting. I’ve felt for some time that Baaeed has a mid-130s performance in him but I also think Mishriff at his best is around 130. He was very impressive in this last year and if it turns out that Baaeed is found out by the trip he could win. Personally, I think Baaeed will improve for it and it could be that Alenquer is there to ensure a proper test so I suspect they’re pretty confident.
 
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I didn’t do my ratings for this race and probably won’t have a bet. It should be between the ‘big two’ but the way Mishriff has been starting his races this season is off-putting. I’ve felt for some time that Baaeed has a mid-130s performance in him but I also think Mishriff at his best is around 130. He was very impressive in this last year and if it turns out that Baaeed is found out by the trip he could win. Personally, I think Baaeed will improve for it and it could be that Alenquer is there to ensure a proper test so I suspect they’re pretty confident.
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I can’t see past Baaeed and don’t really want to try. Not going to bet, just enjoy him and be surprised (and hugely disappointed) if anything upsets the apple cart. Something might even get him off the bridle this time :)
 

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