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Hey everyone,

I’m new here and wanted to introduce myself properly. I’ve been involved in horse racing for quite a few years now, mainly from the data and analysis side rather than tipping or betting systems. Over the past eight years, myself and my dad have been building something as a bit of a hobby project, it started as a hobby and has slowly evolved into what I now call 'RacingStatto'.

It’s basically a data-driven tool that analyses years of UK racing results and ranks every runner by key performance factors like going, distance, speed etc + 2 totally unique metrics that give us laser focussed stats in an easy to read format. It’s not a tipping service or anything commercial, just something we’ve been developing because we love the sport and the challenge of finding statistical patterns that actually hold up over time. I want to share what we've built for free, to generate feedback, improve it, to give the racing community an extra edge to their bets, and to hopefully make a positive impact on the horse-racing community as a whole.

I mainly joined Talking Horses because I’m always looking to connect with like-minded people who understand racing beyond just the surface level, people who enjoy the mix of stats, instinct, and discussion that makes it so fascinating. This comes from the heart, so I hope it doesn't across differently, I'm not looking to sell anything and there are no catches what so ever.

Before I share or discuss any of what I've built, I just wanted to check it’s okay to talk about a project like that here? Totally respect the forum rules and don’t want to post anything that crosses a line. If not then I would still love to be involved in the community here regardless.

Looking forward to chatting with some of you and hopefully learning a lot along the way.

Cheers,
Dylan (StattoMan)
 
Everyone’s obsessed with models these days. But the racing bettor’s mind already works like Google Maps — you don’t need every turn and pothole, you just need to know the road to Dublin.
 
I’ve been wondering lately how true that actually is? Stats models seem to be having a big impact in football, with clubs like Brentford, Brighton, Hearts and Midjylland attributing their improved performance to statistical analysis. Are the aspects of racing that have traditionally been overlooked where a statistical approach might help find good horses and identify when they should win?
 
Welcome to the forum, Statto. Hope you enjoy it on here and look forward to reading your posts.
 
Grey said:
I’ve been wondering lately how true that actually is? Stats models seem to be having a big impact in football, with clubs like Brentford, Brighton, Hearts and Midjylland attributing their improved performance to statistical analysis. Are the aspects of racing that have traditionally been overlooked where a statistical approach might help find good horses and identify when they should win?
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You’re right to ask, but the truth is that algorithms already are the market. Every layer of it — from the exchange bots to the syndicates — runs on models far more sophisticated than anything a hobbyist or even a small team could build. Trying to beat them with a spreadsheet is like showing up to a gunfight with a rusty penknife.

These models are pumping millions through the exchanges every year. They react in milliseconds, not minutes, and price in every public data point before most punters have even had their coffee. That’s why stats-based punting gives such a false sense of control — the edge is long gone by the time you’ve found it.

You wouldn’t buy a football club and try to out-model Brentford or Brighton. Racing’s no different.
 
Having at one time been tech lead on BI projects in business world, raw public data known by all is one thing but kpi's derived from that are refined as time goes on to try and get 'better numbers' than the competition or new data they simply don't have. Also in my experience a smallish team of the right people gets better results.
 
pawras said:
Having at one time been tech lead on BI projects in business world, raw public data known by all is one thing but kpi's derived from that are refined as time goes on to try and get 'better numbers' than the competition or new data they simply don't have.
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How is that different from what I'm saying?
 
Slim said:
How is that different from what I'm saying?
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I think you were overly negative in your view, the betting industry may be different who knows but in my experience with techy data stuff a handful of the right guys can come up with something better than or new to what's out there.
I.e. something me and small team did inhouse completely kicked the arse of what a commercial vendor was offering
 
pawras said:
I think you were overly negative in your view, the betting industry may be different who knows but in my experience with techy data stuff a handful of the right guys can come up with something better than or new to what's out there.
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You've completely misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm well aware of the biggest data players in the game. They can't be beaten using maths.
 
Grey said:
I’ve been wondering lately how true that actually is? Stats models seem to be having a big impact in football, with clubs like Brentford, Brighton, Hearts and Midjylland attributing their improved performance to statistical analysis. Are the aspects of racing that have traditionally been overlooked where a statistical approach might help find good horses and identify when they should win?
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Those models ended up with Leeds replacing Bielsa with Jesse Marsch. You didn't need to be an expert in stats to realise very quickly, that the American was a useless c*** !
 

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