walsworth
Journeyman
Done my conkers yesterday, only 7 bets left in my bank. Don’t think I will ever learn!
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Stop At A Winner
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Ian_Davies
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(Nap).
Ian_Davies
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If I may make so bold, my dear old online friend, you are a mass of paradoxes and contradictions.
You flit from one system or approach to another, are very (and commendably) open about it here, you wear your heart on your sleeve and are very honest when things go wrong and yet....
....Being open about losing invites comment, you're talking openly so the assumption some others make is you are inviting reaction and feedback yet, when other (maybe more successful) punters helpfully try to steer you in another direction I've seen you get defensive, saying "I do things my way! I'm fine, and do very well, thank you very much!" when subsequent posts like this suggest that's not actually the case.
None of it makes sense to me.
It's often said "if you can't be a good judge, then be a good judge of good judges," or "even if you are a good judge, add to your gains by also being a good judge of good judges."
There are some good judges here - I can tell them, not by the winners they put up, but the observations they make inbetween times, things that resonate with me from my years of experience.
Identify them, follow them and, if there is any transparency to their methodology, seek to emulate it - this stuff actually works.
I've been betting for close to 50 years and most of what keeps my head above water is what I've picked up from others along the way and adopted, adapted, and made my own.
Maybe you are now 1.01 to tell me to F off and mind my own business but, if you openly talk about this stuff, you kinda invite others to make it their business too.
Anyway, good luck.
And before all that - where's MY breakfast??!!
You flit from one system or approach to another, are very (and commendably) open about it here, you wear your heart on your sleeve and are very honest when things go wrong and yet....
....Being open about losing invites comment, you're talking openly so the assumption some others make is you are inviting reaction and feedback yet, when other (maybe more successful) punters helpfully try to steer you in another direction I've seen you get defensive, saying "I do things my way! I'm fine, and do very well, thank you very much!" when subsequent posts like this suggest that's not actually the case.
None of it makes sense to me.
It's often said "if you can't be a good judge, then be a good judge of good judges," or "even if you are a good judge, add to your gains by also being a good judge of good judges."
There are some good judges here - I can tell them, not by the winners they put up, but the observations they make inbetween times, things that resonate with me from my years of experience.
Identify them, follow them and, if there is any transparency to their methodology, seek to emulate it - this stuff actually works.
I've been betting for close to 50 years and most of what keeps my head above water is what I've picked up from others along the way and adopted, adapted, and made my own.
Maybe you are now 1.01 to tell me to F off and mind my own business but, if you openly talk about this stuff, you kinda invite others to make it their business too.
Anyway, good luck.
And before all that - where's MY breakfast??!!
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walsworth
Journeyman
I have tried many times to understand the form book and nearly always come to the conclusion that the favourite is a good thing. The annoying thing is that my method, I’m not sure I would call it a system, does work if I can only keep to it. My problem is that if a couple of results go against me, particularly like a last fence faller or being nutted on the line, I lose discipline and back the iffy ones tha I would normally pass on.
I will now be more selective for a while and hopefully let the bank recover. There is no doubt that my method works much better in lower class races.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, I will try to take heed of them. Don’t worry about me having to sell the family silver, I haven’t got any and my stakes are modest.
Happy New Year and mind you don’t choke on a Hobnob!
I will now be more selective for a while and hopefully let the bank recover. There is no doubt that my method works much better in lower class races.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, I will try to take heed of them. Don’t worry about me having to sell the family silver, I haven’t got any and my stakes are modest.
Happy New Year and mind you don’t choke on a Hobnob!
walsworth
Journeyman
Took your advice and recovered a sizeable chunk of my bank, thanks to @The Fortune Teller .
I do regard following other posters as cheating really, and like to pursue my own ideas but maybe there is room for both?
I don’t want to be regarded as a lurker, taking but not giving!
I do regard following other posters as cheating really, and like to pursue my own ideas but maybe there is room for both?
I don’t want to be regarded as a lurker, taking but not giving!
Ian_Davies
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What ARE you on about, my dear friend?
I've spent my whole life "cheating!"
I regard myself as one of Britain's finest parasites!
Do we want to win - or lose by following some unwritten bonkers moral code??!!
Amorality - it's the way forward, trust!
Delighted you had a winning day and who, knows, maybe you picked up some thinking along the way which will lead to independent success too.
The Fortune Teller
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You must have backed mine each way as I'm suffering from seconditis and thirditis, Wallsy.
For what it's worth, I fancy One Horse Army in Limerick's 3.25. He'll definitely act on the ground, ran well at this track in December of last year, and hopefully today is the day he shows he can win a race over hurdles, I reckon he's handicapped to do so.
They've got some horse as fav with more 0's to his name than James Bond, because he's trained by Charles Byrnes. While I freely admit I don't know the inner workings of Irish Racing, or U.K racing for that matter, I'm happy to take the fav on with One Horse Army E/W.
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walsworth
Journeyman
Off to London shortly for various tests, poking and prodding including a bone marrow biopsy. Not very pleasant but the pretty nurses make up for it.
These races are the ones that I may have an interest in today. I won't decide whether to bet or not until nearer the 'off' but if I do, it will be among first three in the betting.
I'll try to post before each race but it will depend on my position in the hospital!
These races are the ones that I may have an interest in today. I won't decide whether to bet or not until nearer the 'off' but if I do, it will be among first three in the betting.
| 12.20 | Warwick |
| 12.43 | Uttoxeter |
| 1.00 | Lingfield |
| 1.52 | Warwick |
| 2.22 | Warwick |
| 2.52 | Warwick |
I'll try to post before each race but it will depend on my position in the hospital!
Danny
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You bring laughter and joy to the forum Walsworth and put a smile on peoples faces that is the biggest contribition a person can make to any forum. You will never be regarded as a lurker here.
Good luck with the bets today.
walsworth
Journeyman
12:20, no bet
12:43, John Barbour.
13:00, Up The Agenda. 2 places.
13:52, no bet.
14:22, Getaway Theatre.
14:52, no bet.
12:43, John Barbour.
13:00, Up The Agenda. 2 places.
13:52, no bet.
14:22, Getaway Theatre.
14:52, no bet.
Ian_Davies
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As if!
Walsworth (aka Purwell on TRF) has been ripping the piss out of me for donkeys years - he's the best therapy any narcissist could ever have!
Granted, he's never come within a bloody furlong of ever tipping me a winner, but he's kept me grounded (or as close to grounded as I'll ever be) and endlessly amused!
Viva Walsey!
walsworth
Journeyman
Most of the time I’m away with the fairies due to some of the meds they keep giving me.
walsworth
Journeyman
Been Black and Deckered by the lovely Lucy. Back in the clinic to pick up meds and to be told the plan going forward.
Missed getting the bet on John Barbour.
Missed getting the bet on John Barbour.
walsworth
Journeyman
Missed getting the bet on John Barbour because a pretty nurse was sticking a bloody great needle in my bum & the other two were unplaced.
This is the first half dozen races of interest on New Years Day.
This is the first half dozen races of interest on New Years Day.
| 12.35 | Exeter |
| 12.59 | Windsor |
| 1.05 | Musselburgh |
| 1.25 | Cheltenham |
| 1.40 | Musselburgh |
| 1.55 | Southwell |
Barnestormer
Amateur Rider
So are you trying to say she was going to stick three needles in you!!!!
walsworth
Journeyman
In the sentence "Missed getting the bet on John Barbour because a pretty nurse was sticking a bloody great needle in my bum & the other two were unplaced," the antecedent is "Missed getting the bet on John Barbour." The antecedent refers back to the pronoun "the bet." This helps clarify the identity of the subject being referred to in the sentence.
