15 Year Old Guilty Of Murder

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Before I had reached my 16th Birthday I knew two people who were sadly murdered in two totally separate incidents. One of them was a very good friend who had his head blown off at close range by a shotgun. The other one was also shot. Both of the culprits were caught, both served their time behind bars and neither (as far as I know) have ever re-offended. I became friends with the sister of one of the murderers, quite by accident. It's a long story but just in case anyone was wondering why I reacted the way I did to Merlin's comment. It stirred up a few old feelings.

I spent alot of last night thinking about what Merlin had said about people like me (ie childless) not knowing what it must be like for a parent to lose their child. He is absolutely right, I don't know but all I can do is multiply thousands of times what I felt like all those years ago when I lost a friend (and still feel now) and perhaps, just perhaps, I may come somewhere remotely close.
 
COL you can imagine if it was me that did the swearing or calling someone from their Hole to their pole, I would be banned, so lets have fair play all around and those that are using foul language as such and attacking and threatening me in a personal manner,(which are both against board rules) be considered for being banned, I post an opinion and regardless of its content it is not personal to anyone in particuclar on here..
 
Correct because your answer on the CHELTENHAM thread was personal to me, and nothing to do with what I posted, RE Cheltenham, why again don't or didn't you post a thread which was to do with the heading not try and belittle me..
If you want a slanging match BAR I am very sure I'll give you a very good run for your money.. :o
 
Originally posted by Euronymous@Oct 18 2006, 11:34 PM
I`m shocked at the amount of swearing on this thread. What is the forum coming to when Brian and even Kathy are effing and jeffing?

I also read at least half a dozen of Merlin`s posts that didn`t contain any :P , ;) or even :brows:
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EURO most times when in a serious debate I don't think the smillies are appropiate!!

But I don't use strong language on here anyway! I respect the younger element and ladies that may read the threads, (not all mind as a few on here use gutter language KATHY is one,and she needs to be penalised for it too) has they don't have the ability to converse or write and they just go into rants and raves, but that's another story,read her threads ......if you or I posted this we would be banned sine die for the personal attack also................... :rolleyes:

Jon your posts are really hillarious......they leave a lot to be desired also....... ;)
 
Originally posted by Bar the Bull+Oct 19 2006, 09:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bar the Bull @ Oct 19 2006, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Songsheet@Oct 17 2006, 05:03 PM
I see your point, Bar but I feel it's a little bit naive - there are a few criminals who simply can never be rehabilitated because they don't choose to be. I am not talking about the criminally insane here, by the way, rather those who are judged to be sane but who have no remorse for what they did or any desire to change. It's not a case of us giving up on them but rather them giving up on themselves.
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But Julie,

If they haven't rehabilitated, they wouldn't be released. Anybody who shows no remorse and no desire to change should be imprisoned for life. But we can't judge how they will be in the future on sentencing day.

And "naive" is one of the nicest things that I have been called on the forum this week.... :lol: [/b][/quote]
Anyone for scrabble. ;)
 
Merlin, I'm still waiting for your explanation as to why I was placed on your list of childless idiots.
 
Originally posted by cricketfan+Oct 19 2006, 12:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cricketfan @ Oct 19 2006, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Merlin the Magician@Oct 19 2006, 10:25 AM
[Jon your posts are really hillarious
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A bit like your spelling ! [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: Cricket the ONE LINER KING!!!!!!! aint you? you have not the ability to write a full post out ? have you???????

Stick to your Cricket mate!! that's IF you know anything about that either? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Merlin the Magician+Oct 19 2006, 11:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Merlin the Magician @ Oct 19 2006, 11:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by cricketfan@Oct 19 2006, 12:52 PM
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@Oct 19 2006, 10:25 AM
[Jon your posts are really hillarious
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A bit like your spelling !
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:lol: :lol: Cricket the ONE LINER KING!!!!!!! aint you? you have not the ability to write a full post out ? have you???????

Stick to your Cricket mate!! that's IF you know anything about that either? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
Thanks Merlin, but I'm better at fishing than cricket. :P
 
Originally posted by Phil Waters@Oct 19 2006, 01:30 PM
Merlin, I'm still waiting for your explanation as to why I was placed on your list of childless idiots.
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I assumed you had no children PHIL it was a generalisation as I always thought you had no children, and were a single guy. But sorry if it was a mistake..........( I never branded them as idiots either)and like you said you never posted anything about the post other than the sentence length of time. But I don’t make up things up as I go along! I can assure you. I may make the very occasional mistake on interpretation..... Others on here have stated they have children, or are in a relationship or not, otherwise I would not have known about the others would I. Please accept my apologies......
 
Merlin - when you actually stop and think before posting offensive comments (and believe me, your comments about the childless were deeply offensive, with or without swearing) and make posts that, while they may be diametrically opposed in their content to many on here, are well argued and thought out - then and only then will you have any moral high ground to stand on and demand others are banned if they don't do the same.

If you had just one iota of grace and had acknowledged that you were wrong about the minimum time this child will be serving and admit to your lack of knowledge about our sentencing system, most on here would think better of you. But to keep harping on and on and failing to admit when you are quite clearly incorrect in part of your posting - well, it's no wonder that nearly every respondent to your topic disagrees with you.

And don't try and and be so patronising - your 'hillarious' (sic) crack at Jon merely underlines your inability to engage in any form of reasoned debate.
 
If YOU opened your eyes and read what was posted...

Not what YOU assume that’s posted.

The Childless thing was another way to look at this sentence it WAS not a KNOCK to others and nobody as taken it this way either, ONLY YOU. It seemed to me that the majority of those who had posted were not wed or had ever brought up any family.

So it was me stating that these may have looked at it, obviously in a different light- way to those who have a family (apart from you who I stated was against the DEATH PENALTY) and brought up the said family and if it was to have happened to one of them!!!...

That’s not a knock! In anyway whatsoever It was me suggesting that they viewed it differently so don't try and turn the said tables, you are wonderful for trying that on, in many posts of others, not only mine. You are a constant stirrur on here as I have told you before...

How long have you been Jons mentor or talk agent! I don't think YOU need to interfere either, she has an opportunity to reply herself, surely it was a bit of my sarcasm… the same way as she posts HER sarcasms or are you not SEEING those either?

And yes the members who are openly flaunting the board’s rules need to be penalised for it as well!!! Or there’s no point in having rules or parameters if they are not going to be acted upon when someone transgresses…


My posts are NOT transgressing in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER the fact that some don't agree with my opinion is NOT in the slightest way against any board rules AND DON'T GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO ABUSE AND ATTACK ME IN A PERSONAL WAY EITHER and those who do attack me on a personal basis with there one liners will have them back as well...
I rest my case!!!!! Again………..
 
Originally posted by Bar the Bull@Oct 19 2006, 03:39 PM
You called me an idiot this morning, but you are doing a great job of proving that you can match me for idiocy.
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Bar grow up your very immature and are really showing it also, with your schoolboy chatter ................ you wont mind I'm sure if I ignore your post in future will you??? ta
 
CHELTENHAM TO COVER GROUND BECAUSE OF FROSTS

I then wrote this to add to the thread if others have not read it???…..
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How does one get over the low sun at winter ?? thats another bone of contention, alter the races so they run all chases as the first races on the card? may just suffice..................but surely they should have thought about this option as well, just like covering the ground when frosts are forecast............


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I once had a photographic memory which was never developed!! that's why I get such negative responses?
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Hang the feckers. And their kids.


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BAR why the feck dont you grow up one would expect a response like that from you, you really are the idiot we all know you are then? your a fecking kid grow up you immature arsehole..... ?????


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I once had a photographic memory which was never developed!! that's why I get such negative responses?
 
Why I'm even bothering to reply to you, I don't really know Merlin but if you conclude from the responses above that it was only me that took offence to your comments, then presumably you have goldfish tendencies.

Continue to rant, in upper and lower case, with and without emoticons, excessive punctuation and the like - UKIP surely has another recruit in you...
 
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This is Bar the Bull, looks OK to me
 
I would love to know what I posted on this topic to piss Merlin off so much. I doubt he will be able to answer me without blowing his top.

I am getting a fascinating insight into the mind of a Daily Mail reader, which is nice.
 
This topic is no longer about the case and it is surely time to close it .
 
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