A speedy sort of top-line. Stamina dam side. 10 furlongs likely to prove his best trip as a mature horse. But possible he'll get a bit further.
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A speedy sort of top-line. Stamina dam side. 10 furlongs likely to prove his best trip as a mature horse. But possible he'll get a bit further.
Desert Orchid
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No evidence to back that assertion up. One attempt at 12f in which he arguably ran to his OR despite apparently being in decline in his last three races from midsummer.
...interesting I suppose. The moral is probably if you want a Group winner take it to Leopardstown at the end of the season.
The likes of Footstepsinthesand, Grey Swallow, Rayeni, Frost Giant have won it in recent years. It is not a bad race.
chroniclandlord
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A field of seven go for the Criterium International at Saint Cloud on Sunday.
Arasin
Emerald Commander
Midas Touch
Jan Vermeer
Prizefighting
Royal Bench
Rosanara
Arasin
Emerald Commander
Midas Touch
Jan Vermeer
Prizefighting
Royal Bench
Rosanara
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Prizefighting will be fascinating but Rosanara will be a tough nut to crack.
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Racing Post says very soft.
chroniclandlord
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I really like the look of these two, but Rosenara looked really good at Longchamp and it will take a good colt to beat her.
No evidence -apart from the evidence of the jockey and trainer DO.
chroniclandlord
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A good win for Jan Vermeer, there could also be some good progressive horses behind him.
Midas Touch and Prizefighting both looked quite green.
Midas Touch and Prizefighting both looked quite green.
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Their opinion, I presume.
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of all the people who should be fully aware of the difference between evidence and opinion!!!!! :lol:
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However , as anyone knows expert opinion is of its very nature evidence - unlike the opinion of the non-expert. Thus Ahern and Dunlop are likely to be experts with regard to the horse compared to DO and SL .
Moreover , the lousy run over 12f weakening in the final furlong looks like evidence to me .On his rating he should have beaten two of the horses who finished in front of him ( not including Mawatheeq who is evidently far better than 106)and been a lot closer to Campanologist.
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Counsel, I don't believe SL offered any opinion on the horse whatsoever - observation!!!
I think Jan Vermeer will prove to be absolutely top class. Great big son of Montjeu who looks very uncomplicated. His maiden success on fast ground was pretty impressive - at this rate Ballydoyle look to be dominating the Derby again to the same extent as this year - with the obvious exception of STS.
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"......son of Montjeu who looks very uncomplicated............"
Some would say that is an oxymoron.
Some would say that is an oxymoron.
chroniclandlord
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Nebula Storm won nicely.
I also thought Dylan Thomas's sister Remember When ran well in the first. She finished second after meeting a bit of trouble in running.
I also thought Dylan Thomas's sister Remember When ran well in the first. She finished second after meeting a bit of trouble in running.