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J Mangold said:
I think questioning motives is fine, but there can be a fine line between that and virtually saying to someone..you scamming cnt.

I don't know any easy answer..but I do think that newbies have it hard now in this knowledge hardened game..we could be missing out Slim on next Gigilo..or even the next Slim Chance:)
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But you also have to accept that a lot of these new accounts are just trolling bastards that head straight for the will win or daily picks threads because they have an agenda. The strongest will always survive and the forum is a better place for not pandering to cunts. If that's cliquey than so be it.
 
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It's not being jumped on by any old-timer clique that puts me off posting here...it's "he said, she said, they said" sh!te like this thread.

Who effing cares? Grow up and get back to discussing racing, the lot of you.
 
I seem to remember I had a good record on one of those threads..Harry will know..he said I owned it..you started another afterwards..do you remember..bet you don't..Harry will though:D
 
Cruella said:
It's not being jumped on by any old-timer clique that puts me off posting here...it's "he said, she said, they said" sh!te like this thread.

Who effing cares? Grow up and get back to discussing racing, the lot of you.
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Why read the thread if you think its shite though Cruella? I never get that, I read lots of threads on lots of boards..not all racing..and if i did what you have done i'd be posting all day.."why bother with shite threads like this?"

it may be shite to you..but for someone starting out..it might be just the ticket..life and threads aren't just about you you know.

If I see a thread about..the best worktops..or the best starting plugs..i wouldn't read them..and if i went on and posted..who fookin cares..i'd be looking at myself and thinking ..why did i do that
 
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J Mangold said:
Well, tbh, you should be.
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Since you've outed yourself I'm reading your posts and I'm disappointed with the above remark.

May I remind you you took advantage of your having me at a disadvantage in that you knew who I was, what I do and how honest I am.

Under your new guise, you started making questions and remarks, some of which I took as either frivolous or snide and none serious or respectful, directly in response to my posts. You could quite easily have contextualised those questions/remarks by first recognising that you had seen my work so knew how seriously I take it.

Anyway, EC1, I have offered an olive branch. It's up to you whether you accept it.
 
SlimChance said:
But you also have to accept that a lot of these new accounts are just trolling bastards that head straight for the will win or daily picks threads because they have an agenda. The strongest will always survive and the forum is a better place for not pandering to cunts. If that's cliquey than so be it.
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This is spot on.

It's a bit like going into a pub. If you've never been there before and there's a load of regulars sitting at the bar, you can't just go in there behaving like a cun.t - the regulars won't tolerate it.

Once you've gained people's trust and shown you're a genuine enough bloke, you can be a cun.t and everyone just says "ah that's just Benny being a cun.t, he's alright really".

Your Mangold character just waltzed in and started being a cun.t straight off the bat.
 
There's two ways to approach posting on a forum.

1. You lurk for a while, and try to get to know the forum's characters/styles before wading in.

2. You wade in immediately.

Both approaches are perfectly legit.

What's not on (imho) is to lurk, and surface occassionally, only to post that the atmosphere is too poisonous to post regularly i.e. as archielab appears to have done.

This is not having a pop at archielabs, rather it is a defence of individual member's posting styles. Using Slim as an example, he isn't spiteful - he is bolshie......and there is a world of difference between the two. The last thing we should want to happen is for members to nueter their method, just in case it upsets someone - and that goes for long-term and new members alike.

If you want to be a member of a happy-clappy, nice-as-pie forum, where everyone is consistently courteous to each other, then join Mumsnet.

This is a house of strong opinions, because it goes hand-in-hand with the subject-matter that's discussed. Fall-outs are a natural by-product of the exchanges here, and everyone needs to learn to live with that fact. That should not preclude anyone from giving as good as they get, or refrain from posting.

Apart from Slim's hair-trigger responses to guessers on his WW thread, I don't recall anyone on here ever being put-down after their opening gambit.

One final point.

EC1, you were bulleted. The fact you asked for your account to be deleted is neither here nor there, and for a guy who is presumably looking to display some contrition, you're already dishing it out, within a page of first outing yourself. Got to love your style! :D
 
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Benny..I don't think constructive criticism is being a cnt though. I see what you are saying obviously. I don't think i walked in and knocked anyones drink over.
 
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Grasshopper said:
If you want to be a member of a happy-clappy, nice-as-pie forum, where everyone is consistently courteous to each other, then join Mumsnet.
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Genuinely laughing here - the posters on Mumsnet's AIBU sub-forum would eat this place for breakfast!
 
Grass..I don't feel I am dishing it out..i just say what I see...look at the Cruella post..who the fook in their right mind posts on a thread they think is shite?..its just pointless..so I say so.

Is that wrong?

Look..i know i put folks backs up..but tbh..some deserve it with the silliness of their comments..just so they can make a disparaging comment
 
Cruella said:
Genuinely laughing here - the posters on Mumsnet's AIBU sub-forum would eat this place for breakfast!
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do they read threads they hate and comment on them like you do?..ffs

i'm sorry but your need to make a "smart" comment doesn't have the effect you think.
 
J Mangold said:
Benny..I don't think constructive criticism is being a cnt though. I see what you are saying obviously. I don't think i walked in and knocked anyones drink over.
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Not sure about that - a very early post was that the Will Win thread was an embarrassment to the forum.
 
I fear you are already falling into old habits, EC1.

Cruella can post whatever she wants on whatever subject she wants. IMO, you are the last person entitled pass comment on it on it, given your previous.
 
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Cruella said:
Genuinely laughing here - the posters on Mumsnet's AIBU sub-forum would eat this place for breakfast!
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Who would know, Cruella? It seemed an obvious example, but given my experience with the women in my life, your reply makes perfect sense! :D
 
Of course she can post..I have no issue with that..my point is that people who read threads they hate and comment aren't wired up right imo..she can post all she wants on a thread she hates..just reinforces my opinion of her. Anyone can post wtf they want imo..but i will make a judgement same as she has about this thread. I care not what she cares about the thread..i just wonder the mentality of posting on such a thread,,same as she can waste her time posting on threads of no interest to her..i hold the right to comment on it.

nothing to do with telling folk what to do..earlier today Benny told me to stop posting inane rubbish..didn't see you defend me then..surely i had a right to post inane rubbish..didn't i?..same as Cruella has the right to post negative comments on a thread she hates.

so you are very selective in who you are pulling up..

i say ...say wtf you want..but if i have a view on it..i will post..is that a problem?
 
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J Mangold said:
it was enhancing the forum then was it?
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As you said yourself, if you think a thread is shite don't bother posting.

Posting negative stuff on other people's threads is bound to get people's backs up.

The Will Win thread has been pretty legendary in the past to be fair too. Current incarnation hasn't properly got going yet but the flat only started this week.
 
Grasshopper said:
Who would know, Cruella? It seemed an obvious example, but given my experience with the women in my life, your reply makes perfect sense! :D
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Someone once described them as "a nest of vipers" and they considered it a compliment :D

It's an entertaining place if you're at a loose end, but you have to watch out for the Poo Troll.
 
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