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Will wait to see how much rain they get

Seems to be a fair bit forecast for Friday and showers on Saturday

Bristol is the bet if they get the rain
 
Has Haydock had rain?

This threads been quiet.

I'll be cheering home Lostintranslation, hoping he gets me some bonus points for my TTF, but Clan is a very good horse and Bristol is no mug either.
 
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Marb said:
Has Haydock had rain?

This threads been quiet.

I'll be cheering home Lostintranslation, hoping he gets me some bonus points for my TTF, but Clan is a very good horse and Bristol is no mug either.
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Rain expected for race time with the course soft atm.
 
Lost in Translation for me too. Nicholls has been at pains to say how fit and ready Clan des Obeaux is for this, but he can’t hide his record in left handed Grade 1’s, which makes for horrible reading. Assuming they all jump I’d expect both LiT and Bristol de Mai to finish ahead of him.
 
It Rained for about 3 hours yesterday, been dry and very gusty all night.....dry and blowing a hooly right now, no water on the hard standing....wouldn't expect the ground to change from what it is already stated.
 
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I've backed Keepers Hill EW 40/1 in this. Maybe there is another defection and I don't trust that any of the front three will run their race. I think the Charlie Hall was a pipe opener for this, and I can see him running better than his odds. Whether he gets into the top two, I don't know, but at the odds, happy to find out at small stakes.
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Still 33/1 in a place. The Charlie Hall was definitely a prep for something, kept rear and wide as though desperate to run below its true ability but made ground smoothly enough as others tired without being given too hard a race.

I'm pretty sure I put this one up at long odds for a big festival race either last season or the season before and at this meeting last year in the graduation chase he gave the 155-rated Midnight Shadow, touted as an RSA prospect, 11lbs and a beating. His best form is also when ridden prominently and I expect to see him track the pace today. Given the class of opposition - the front three would still be in front of his notional 166 for the Midnight Shadow form - and only two places going, he needs misfortune to befall others.

I'd swap his market position (33/1 tops) with Bellshill's (18/1) but the small field puts me off a bet.
 
Given how crucial track form seems to be at Haydock these days, I have to row-in with the very-obvious LIT.

Could be the best 6/4 shot across all the cards today.
 
I’ve been quite sweet on BDM being A1 for this. Just seen the Grand National being touted for him. Hoping this isn’t a weight cutting excercise for Aintree now.
 
Relieved that someone else has backed Keepers Hill as it’s a horse I’m following this year and, much as I wasn’t expecting him to run in a race with so many top class horses I had to back him last night.
 
A cracking little race and struggling to have a really strong view, but am going to take Nicholls comments at face value and row in with Clan Des Obeaux...
 
Ruby very critical of Sam T-D there on ITV. Pretty much what I said to Mrs Viking


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He's hopeless - so untidy and all over the place. Sure he hinders more than helps.
Fabulous for Daryl Jacob, how lovely to watch his reaction. Such a shame no crowds...really miss the atmosphere when watching races like that.
 
Disappointing from LIT but you would have expected Bristol to win in that ground.
Clan ran a lovely race before winning another KG.
 
TBH, I’d be a little concerned that the race has torn the arse out of both CDO and LIT, insofar as the King George is concerned.
 
You would always have a doubt after a race like that.
LIT was never in it and has had a brutal race. Should have been pulled up and saved for another day.
 
I don't think Sam T-D was too hard on CDO. He held on to him for as long as he was travelling and didn't beat him up when BDM upped the ante going to the last.

I thought it was a fantastic reappearance from CDO and one I wasn't really expecting.
 
I've been checking the racing websites for any comments from Colin Tizzard, on attheraces website the trainer is quoted as saying the jockey Robbie Power knew the horse hated the ground from after the first fence, so apparently it was the ground.

Lost In Translation is a lightly raced horse, I think that was his tenth start over fences. I don't know what's up with him but I doubt it's anything to do with mileage.

If his next run is in the King George I think that will be the acid test, or D-day so to speak, especially after his dissapointing effort last year.

It's unlikely but if he gets decent ground maybe he can bounce back. As I say, lightly raced and he can obviously run a hell of a lot better than he did today.
 
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I've been checking the racing websites for any comments from Colin Tizzard, on attheraces website the trainer is quoted as saying the jockey Robbie Power knew the horse hated the ground from after the first fence, so apparently it was the ground.

Lost In Translation is a lightly raced horse, I think that was his tenth start over fences. I don't know what's up with him but I doubt it's anything to do with mileage.

If his next run is in the King George I think that will be the acid test, or D-day so to speak, especially after his dissapointing effort last year.

It's unlikely but if he gets decent ground maybe he can bounce back. As I say, lightly raced and he can obviously run a hell of a lot better than he did today.
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Got to disagree.

I’m happy to put a line through him now. He was in contention in a slowly run Gold Cup, even Real Deal came swinging in the Gold Cup. Shocking in the King George and shocking again today.

I’m happy to to take him on in any race he happens to appear in now. I can forgive one bad performance, but this is twice now.
 
I won't be backing him any time soon I hasten to add, Double.

Somewhat selfishly as he is my ten to follow I was just trying estimate what chance he would have in a King George after today. He'd certainly have more chance than if he didn't actually turn up on the day.

As I say, I wouldn't be backing him after today. He's up against it now, clearly not a horse to ever want backing at prohibitively short odds either.
 
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