Christmas Hurdle

Originally posted by Euronymous@Dec 26 2007, 01:15 PM
The horse reminds me so much of Rock Hopper from the early 90s. Pat Eddery won a host of Group races on him by just leading right on the line.

Eddery's way of riding Rock Hopper was a ludicrous affectation. The horse won the Zetland as a juvenile under Starkey by five lengths, taking it up a furlong out and drawing well clear. At three, he won the Lingfield Derby Trial by two lengths in the hands of Swinburn after taking the lead over two furlongs out and keeping on well. Eddery rode him first time out at four in the John Porter, a race he was entitled to win on form - he started favourite - and Rock Hopper and another drew well clear of the field. Rock Hopper was always cantering over the other horse and could have taken it up at any stage but in fact did so well inside the final furlong. Suddenly, and unaccountably, he was a "hold-up horse" who needed to be "put in front right on the line." It was tripe, of course, and Eddery nearly got his comeuppance at Royal Ascot that year when he employed ridiculously exaggerated waiting tactics in the Hardwicke, found terrible trouble in running and was beaten a short head by Topanoora only to be controversially awarded the race by the stewards. He'd have won by five minutes given a proper ride but I can still recall John Oaksey in the following day's Telegraph defending the ride and arguing that Rock Hopper was a horse who "almost needs to find trouble in running" or words to that effect.

That's not to say that Harchibald is an easy ride, of course. He needed a lead for a bit longer on Boxing Day. McCoy's ride on Straw Bear has been hugely over-praised. The key moment in the race was the second last at which Straw Bear made a mistake and which Harchibald jumped really well which left him a narrow leader. McCoy had no control over that but we had Norman Williamson suggesting on the BBC yesterday that it was a deliberate ploy on McCoy's part. It wasn't.
 
Such a stunning horse to look at as well...real powerhouse.

Shows how good Harchibald is on a going day and it suggests (to me) that he ran someway below form at Kempton on the easier ground.
 
I dont think Harchibald run worse at Kempton than at Newc

In fact Harchibald better ridden should have won by a short margin posting a figure of something like 163 in my ratings.


I have Al Eile on 160 or 161 at his best what is what he did today.


Straw Bear on his day is also a 163 and has course form, so I dont expect Harchibald to beat him in March.



By the way
Harchibald at his best 2yo was a 170 or 171



It is an open yearfor the Champion Hdl, with no superstars around.
 
Straw Bear on his day is also a 163 and has course form, so I dont expect Harchibald to beat him in March.

With all due respect Suny, Harchibald has course form of just being touched off in a Champion Hurdle so I don't know how course form can benefit Straw Bear over Harchibald whatever way you weigh up their various pros and cons

I think Al Eile has improved....and the comments from all involved would suggest he was better than ever today.
 
Forget about the times in the inside course, this is a complete joke, they are not running 2 miles, it is a shorer distance for sure.


Have a look on the times yesterday and compare it to 27th ones and this is sure because they are not running the correct distance.


We talked about it in the forum, long time ago the year Solerina was 4th in this race against the big 3.
 
Suny,

Dessie Hughes' comment was that it was a fast race compared to the exact same race on the inside track this time last year.

That was the reference point
 
completely disagree
I think Al Eile has run to this kind of figure of 160 or 161, more than 5 times, he is not improving for me , I think he is very good and consistent but not improving.
In fact if I were the owner the target would be aintree and not Cheltneham
 
Originally posted by Bobbyjo@Dec 29 2007, 03:24 PM
Suny,

Dessie Hughes' comment was that it was a fast race compared to the exact same race on the inside track this time last year.

That was the reference point
softer ground last season
 
Of course, the softer ground would make a difference but it was still a fair time....wouldn't underestimate it
 
About the rest of the field

Jazz Messenger not running at his best for me, not a vintage ride by Carberry.


Hardy Eustace interesting if he would not have run last week but is another running a stone below his Champion Hld wins.



Farmer Brown exposed.


Clopf at his best


Ebaziyan , not the best of rides either, beaten on merit but isn a weak division still time to be in the frame in March.
 
Would agree that it was the most encouraging performance from Ebaziyan this year......and don't think the Mullins horses are at their best right now either

Farmer Brown probably isn't good enough to trouble the principles but I do think he ran a little bit below par today.
 
I think Ebaziyan is being trained with one day in mind this season and that is Champion Hurdle day.Todays race was messy enough and at one stage I thought Ebaziyan had half a chance but the interference killed him.There is no substitute for festival form and you could do a lot worse then back Ebaziyan each way at big odds.
 
Not sure about him being trained for the race but he ran ok considering how pretty indifferent form the yard is in right now. Always find that with Mullins...stable form blows very hot and cold.
 
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