Daily picks.

Fffs sake just seen forcasts 1,3,4 that's sickening...havn't even had chance tio look at the results yet absoklute agony..
 
If you ever turn your hand to the jumps, call me....

We could get married.

Seriously.

Can't promise too much in the bedroom department these days but I'd make up for it in the kitchen.

I'll leave it with you.
 
Could never go back to jump racing used to do both you need to be in 20s early 30s to cover that sort of work,but just was too time consuming the flats bad enough but is just about possible to cover most of it,i mentioned the otherday packing it in 2 years will probably play the aw still as only takes an hour to do a card but thinking of going into PTPS similar to aw racing small pool of horses with plenty of ricks around that books find hard to price up.
 
2.20

Wilde inspiration might be worth a small bet off current mark,the ground might be on the quick side for him which would be a negative really needs some jiuce was 6th in the spring mile off 89 followed that up with a 3rd to you're fired at haydock off 89.He hasn't been at best since and mark has dropped to 81 lowest since august 2014 was 6th of 14 at haydock last time out for horses rated upto 90,tomorrow drops into this grade for first time since july 2014.If ground is a bit slower than haydock could run well with adam mcnamara taking him dowb to just 76...

Wilde inspiration 16/1 365 A big price is ground has juice in it,could well go off 10s tops a decent trade..
 
4.20 Nottingham


This is a weak race for horses rated upto 75 so going to have a speculative bet on one of my old favourites rusty rocket would always look for him on soft ground from a decent draw in recent times profile has changed hasn't needed to lead and ground he's run well on has been indifferentso can't remember backing him in recent times.He hasn't been in great form recently but has dropped to 75 and when running off this mark of 75 or less on turf has an unbelievable record of 1/1/1/1/1,aso pj mc donald has decent record on him 2/6 and a place and has decent track record two wins has already won this season off 80 and as mentioned was may 2015 since last run in this grade.The strange thing is ground in recent times been avoiding softer ground and or that maybe pure coincidence but hasn't stopped him running just as well,bit of a guess as last two runs poor but on all previous history he's due to run a decent race...

Rusty rocket 25/1 365..33/1 hills
 
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7.45 Kempton

Another speculative bet but more obviously so major crispies usyally a runner you can discount especially at short prices have backed him at big prices before as has ability was rated 89 2015 and won off 85 but does tend to throw races away by his start and hanging he's one of those horses that at huge prices worth playing as has decent times on the clock.He's now also looking on downbgrade down to just a mark of 80 lowest since february 2014,he might be worth a toke bet tomorrow in this grade runs over 7fs at kemopton but last 4 runs over a mile on the aw has been 4/5/3/3 off 85 three of those runs at this track.He's only ever won twice from 42 races and trainers had a nightmare season but iof he's ever going to run well will be in this grade..The fav looks obvious as only improver in race and likely front runner..

Major crispies 20/1 365 looks massive rick despite poor trainer form,decent trade
 
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8.15 Kempton


Red rannagh has gone off very short pricves last two runs did run exteemely well in a hot handicap at goodwood 6th of 15 off 87 staying on strongly has run twice since in weaker races 3rd to quebee although respectable run and last time out 3rd to mengli khan going off 11/4fav.
The time of that race was ok nothing special for horses with these ratings so would be hard to say much value in price again,but as slightly bigger than previous runs plus this does look slightly weaker then worth a small bet with only eight lifetime runs with three for david simcock..

Red rannagh 7/2 lads 3/1 365
 
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5.45

This is another speculative one,bit disappointed with multi gifted after running over 11 furlongs here as thought he may have won a race by now
in beteen has run some poor races but in between runs behind jiminez,nicarra and especially toms rock at least on turf when only beaten 1 1/4ls look ok for horses rated upto 70.Then again ran at brighton outpaced in a weaker race and penultimate run saddle slipped,he will win a race at some point as has abilty but looks very hard to predict,Again could only be a speculative pick as also steps up a furlong plus trainer is just 2 winners from 42 runners this season..

Multigifted 12/1 365/sportsbook may get a bigger price yet

Have done all ew multiples with 365,at these prices have to do something no doubt will be sh1tting themselves and slashing prices soon..:lol:
 
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You won't see me posting for awhile if ever,trouble with the internet you just can't trust anyone especially when you're doing them a favour lets just say my picks within minutes of being on here have been put on whatsup from a private forum by a member on here/And the worst thing about was I was trying to help them out,really is unbelievable and then totally denying it as well and the most ridiculous thing was what was the point of doing it asking me for early prices basically 5 mins before I posted on here then sending then out to a private forum so members on here would be beaten to the prices.I couldn't careless if other forums were seeing the picks that's unavoidable,but to dishionestly deny doing it and being a member off here trying to help out,people wonder why I may appear p1sed off and annoyed on these forums these are the exact reasons why.Will giove it a month or two but won't be posting for the foreseeable future just so p1ssed off,especuially as love posting on here..See ya laters Andy..
 
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You won't see me posting for awhile if ever,trouble with the internet you just can't trust anyone especially when you're doing them a favour lets just say my picks within minutes of being on here have been put on whatsup from a private forum by a member on here/And the worst thing about was I was trying to help them out,really is unbelievable and then totally denying it as well and the most ridiculous thing was what was the point of doing it asking me for early prices basically 5 mins before I posted on here then sending then out to a private forum so members on here would be beaten to the prices.I couldn't careless if other forums were seeing the picks that's unavoidable,but to dishionestly deny doing it and being a member off here trying to help out,people wonder why I may appear p1sed off and annoyed on these forums these are the exact reasons why.Will giove it a month or two but won't be posting for the foreseeable future just so p1ssed off,especuially as love posting on here..See ya laters Andy..
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There is a reason I don't post on Internet forums much anymore too, everything you post can be replicated or plaragisied in seconds. I apologise that you feel I've wronged you but I have to point out that as soon as you click the submit button on a forum post it's in the public domain and can be viewed by anyone. I mentioned to people what you had put up AFTER you had posted on no more than a couple of occasions recently when discussing overnight bets. It's not like I was charging people for your work or passing it off as my own which would be disgraceful. I was simply chatting to other keen punters. At no time recently or any other time did I ever relay the 100s of emails we've ecxchanged over the years and I can't make too fine a point on that. Again I''m sorry if you feel like I've abused your trust but I was always on your side against the idiots out there that stop both of us posting online.
 
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Fair play slim! Andy mate can totally understand hopefully we can still hear the kkkkkaaaaabbbbboooommmmsss in the distance keep giving them layers hell!!!
 
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There is a reason I don't post on Internet forums much anymore too, everything you post can be replicated or plaragisied in seconds. I apologise that you feel I've wronged you but I have to point out that as soon as you click the submit button on a forum post it's in the public domain and can be viewed by anyone. I mentioned to people what you had put up AFTER you had posted on no more than a couple of occasions recently when discussing overnight bets. It's not like I was charging people for your work or passing it off as my own which would be disgraceful. I was simply chatting to other keen punters. At no time recently or any other time did I ever relay the 100s of emails we've ecxchanged over the years and I can't make too fine a point on that. Again I''m sorry if you feel like I've abused your trust but I was always on your side against the idiots out there that stop both of us posting online.
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Why would you do that?

I have deliberately gone out of my way to ensure that I don't leak out this fantastic source of winners.

You sir are an idiot.
 
It's very very sly,especially as you know I fell out with a couple on that site so you deliberately go out of your way to tell them my picks which all seems very strange then I asked you last night ''bullsh1t'' you said took me just an hour to find ouit it was you then I receive an email from colin at puntersmste telling me you'd just deleted your account.Really is unbelievable and too top it off the person at puntersmate gets called a cant for telling the truth and telling me which also says a lot about some of the members on there dioesn't it?,how long would it have been before I found out or you would've told me? never obviously.And I even encouraged you to start posting on this site again as well,there's no excuses it's pretty pathetic isn't it...You gotta laugh the person that does the right thing gets castigated and everyone thinks that's right,just so they can get my picks on the sly unreal at least someone had the decency6 to tell me and they themselves admitted it was wrong looks like they are in a tiny minority not excluding me of course.
 
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It's very very sly,especially as you know I fell out with a couple on that site so you deliberately go out of your way to tell them my picks which all seems very strange then I asked you last night ''bullsh1t'' you said took me just an hour to find ouit it was you then I receive an email from colin at puntersmste telling me you'd just deleted your account.Really is unbelievable and too top it off the person at puntersmate gets called a cant for telling the truth and telling me which also says a lot about some of the members on there dioesn't it?,how long would it have been before I found out or you would've told me? never obviously.And I even encouraged you to start posting on this site again as well,there's no excuses it's pretty pathetic isn't it...You gotta laugh the person that does the right thing gets castigated and everyone thinks that's right,just so they can get my picks on the sly unreal at least someone had the decency6 to tell me and they themselves admitted it was wrong looks like they are in a tiny minority not excluding me of course.
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Your mixing up a lot of stories here.

I told Col to delete my account because it was disgraceful that someone from Puntersmate misinformed you as to what I was doing.

I bet the rat that "outed" 'me from mentioning horses that were already on a public forum kindly forgot to add that I was defending you and your character on my back on the same thread. There is no respect for how good you are on Puntersmate and I was quick to point out that I had you forty notches above Freebooter.

You seem to think I've been devious, sly or underhand which is simply not the case but I'm not going to waste any more of my time with this. Anyone who has had dealings with me in real life (many from this forum) know I'm a straight shooter and a person of good character. If people want to call me an idiot etc then go tell someone who gives a f u c k
 
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A good friend of mine was telling me about this lad he knew who was giving him tips and they were sh*t hot, I asked him to forward them on to me when he got them, took about 3 days to confirm that they were from this thread. I have no idea who the other guy was, I never asked. He was passing them on to my mate to get on his good side as he is very well connected to some prominent jockeys and would often have his card well marked. It wasn't slim by the way, id hardly consider him a friend... Just pointing out that this will happen more often than not, when something is so good, it is open to abuse.
 
It makes no sense what you're saying you told me someone was telling them my picks on there and it was you, so I asked someone on there,they weren't a rat as I had to pester them to find out if you hadn't told me my picks were being put on there I wouldn't have even known,you conveniently didn't say it was actually you that was doing it.Any normral person would think wtf is going on,2 hours after you told me I find out its you,it's the same old nonsense on these forums been through it numerous times..
 
I never said that! I said they were posting what you had put on the thread. You've got it into your head that I'm behind all this. I'll say it once more, at no time have I ever released ANYTHING you told me by email to a third party that wasn't on the forum for a good while. Whoever has told you this is completely misrepresenting the truth. You're taking out your hatred for the Puntersmate forum on me. I was on the forum a week and wasn't aware of your disdain for them. I was the ONLY person on that Whatsapp thread defending you and your character but the rat decided to leave that part out to serve their own purpose.

I've nothing but respect for you and your work and you should know that from the hundreds of Neil's we've exchanged at stupid o clock in the morning over the years.
 
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It makes no sense what you're saying you told me someone was telling them my picks on there and it was you, so I asked someone on there,they weren't a rat as I had to pester them to find out if you hadn't told me my picks were being put on there I wouldn't have even known,you conveniently didn't say it was actually you that was doing it.Any normral person would think wtf is going on,2 hours after you told me I find out its you,it's the same old nonsense on these forums been through it numerous times..
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i been reading forums for a long time..anyone that has will through the years have seen all sorts going off. In the early days it was paid tipsters scouring forums for tips or methods and then adopting them as their own,,then making money from it. Sometimes people just take someone's tips work etc and claim them as their own or not say where they have come from.

To me..the minute you post something..its out there...i personally don't reveal the complete innards of what i do..although i do post lead in angles to get discussions started...i don't mind posting selections sometimes with explanations. Anyone that gives the exact way they work out in this game will get it used. Once you give any insight ..and its seen to be ok....you really do have to expect someone somewhere to use it..maybe claim it as their own etc.

This is horse racing..there ain't no queensbury rules here...we all know what we post may be repeated...so why be surprised when that happens?..that reaction is just odd to me...as its also odd to want to claim benefit for someone else's toil..so both sides know what they getting into from day one.

Col will remember "The Bumper King"..i vaguely remember someone was repeating his tips on other forums i think..that caused this sort of reaction..in fact in the early days "info" was a big battling ground..mine is better than yours..then when it was and someone nicked it and posted elsewhere..all hell broke lose

I'm not defending or criticising Slim on this..but if he hasn't claimed the picks as his own..then it doesn't look like crime of the century.

Gigilo...even if Slim hadn't posted on another forum...what is to stop anyone looking in here for them?..it seems a little odd that them being repeated on another board is causing you so much grief. Most folk know where all the forums are..its not like they are hidden away.

When you post on a forum..owt can happen to that info..how can anyone possibly control it?..nothing has suddenly changed..thats just the way of the internet

this game isn't exactly "an after you sir" game..its dog eat dog re snippets and info
 
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