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See what you are referring to. But the problem is getting notified of an edit without logging on.
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Example -at the bottom @ 2.51 the post was edited, I assume the info was an update about the prices of the 5.55 race
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Some ew multiples books not giving much away again,one or two might drift out to better prices i appear to have picked either trainers out of form or jocks that have hardly rode any winners elisha whittington on red stripes and r.walsh only 7 wins from 286 rides,would keep the stakes very small with these picks..
Chelmsford 4.0
La fortuna 7/4 365/sportsbook/ppower
Ayr 2.40
Al Qahwa 9/1 ppower/sportsbook
Wolves 5.10
Red stripes 6/1 365 13/2 sportsbook/ppower/skybet
5.40
Furni factors 11/2 hills 5/1 365/sportsbook/ppower / Llamrei 8/1 365/victor
Catterick 5.55
Chickenfortea 4/1 365 9/2 skybet 5/1 ppower/sportsbook / Zebulon 9/1 ppower/sportsbook 8/1 skybet/365
Nearly all books going 5/1 now and Zebulon most books going 8/1.
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Some ew multiples books not giving much away again,one or two might drift out to better prices i appear to have picked either trainers out of form or jocks that have hardly rode any winners elisha whittington on red stripes and r.walsh only 7 wins from 286 rides,would keep the stakes very small with these picks..
Chelmsford 4.0
La fortuna 7/4 365/sportsbook/ppower
Ayr 2.40
Al Qahwa 9/1 ppower/sportsbook
Wolves 5.10
Red stripes 6/1 365 13/2 sportsbook/ppower/skybet
5.40
Furni factors 11/2 hills 5/1 365/sportsbook/ppower / Llamrei 8/1 365/victor
Catterick 5.55
Chickenfortea 4/1 365 9/2 skybet 5/1 ppower/sportsbook / Zebulon 9/1 ppower/sportsbook 8/1 skybet/365
Nearly all books going 5/1 now and Zebulon most books going 8/1.
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This forum is hilariously eccentric, it really is. We have one fantastic, albeit egotistic central tipster, a handful of established characters who prefer National Hunt racing,, a handful of punters who want to tip outsiders all the time like me, and would post up a seagull in a bloody pigeon conditionals race, 6000 lurkers, one Diamond Geezer,11 cunts and three females who I might be meeting soon! 
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trudij
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This forum is hilariously eccentric, it really is. We have one fantastic, albeit egotistic central tipster, a handful of established characters who prefer National Hunt racing,, a handful of punters who want to tip outsiders all the time like me, and would post up a seagull in a bloody pigeon conditionals race, 6000 lurkers, one Diamond Geezer,11 cunts and three females who I might be meeting soon!
I’m not aware of a meet up, so where do I fall in that list? [emoji38]
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gigilo
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On the ball as usual Nick KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOMMMMMMM!!! Luverly jubbly
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ulleyseys46
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lot of the media are saying that theres a good crop of 2yo's this year:lol: with godolphin and coolmore linking up now, using galileo and dubai stallions, the breeding side of racing is getting more interesting every year, keeping track of all thats going on will demand an intense focus
dvds2000
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And yet still better than all your winning tips put together.
Have a few days off seeing as pretty much every one of your posts have been having a go at either Slim or Gigolo.
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dvds2000
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Regarding the edits, I could possibly write a custom script to send notifications, however, sometimes posts are edited 5 or 6 times (usually for spelling mistakes) and I get complaints about the amount of subscription emails people get as it is (tip, if you don't want emails, don't subscribe to the thread ), so I can't really do that.
Maybe Gigs could do as suggested above and pop a new post in the thread if he does an edit that adds or changes the selections so people don't miss out? Would you be able to do that Andy do you think?
), so I can't really do that.Maybe Gigs could do as suggested above and pop a new post in the thread if he does an edit that adds or changes the selections so people don't miss out? Would you be able to do that Andy do you think?
I wondered too but given the choices listed I thought it wise not to ask :lol:
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Regarding the edits, I could possibly write a custom script to send notifications, however, sometimes posts are edited 5 or 6 times (usually for spelling mistakes) and I get complaints about the amount of subscription emails people get as it is (tip, if you don't want emails, don't subscribe to the thread
Maybe Gigs could do as suggested above and pop a new post in the thread if he does an edit that adds or changes the selections so people don't miss out? Would you be able to do that Andy do you think?
I can post the added horses don't mind doing that if there's a write up,most of the time its prices i think everyone needs to check on them regularly following day as there can be a lot of changes especially early can drift to a bit more value then shorten up again thats what most of the edits are or more books.
Tanlic
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The media job is to sell racing to the public who in turn buy their products..The media also tell us things like Altior could clash with Douvan in the King George when they see both entered but know well fine it will never happen...but it's a selling point and a lot of fools take it it in and wet their pants
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Well done Andy!! Awesome 1-2.
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Hamilton 3.30
Mr Cool Cash 14/1 sportsbook/ppower/skybet
Absolutely desperate ground at hamilton am not sure this bad a ground will suit Mr Cool Cash as although his best form is on soft or gd/sft the ground is heavy at hamilton, one run he's had on it well beaten,not many positives thios season well beaten in all runs but has only had soft ground once and that was on seasonal debut off 64 at donny staying on beaten 8ls over 7fs.
Five runs on and down to a mark of just 48 in a 0-55 wouldv'e been a warm favourite in this race 12 months ago,second off 66 at ponte in a 0-80 had won a race earlier in the season off 66 did run some poor races as well and on soft ground after that,it's such a poor race worth a speculatuve bet to see if he retains anywhere near that ability,alistair rawlinson booked as well a jock i like but regular jock connor beasley rides jack blane so perhaps stable are not expecting much..Think betting should be a huge pointer in horse capable of winning off 66 last season now off 48,if stable have aimed at these type of races you would expect it to be heavily backed,might be worth giving another chance to, even if no show tomorrow as the ground will be an extreme..
There were two 0-60s run over this c/d on the same day and same grade 11 days ago the fav optima petamus was the quickest of the pair,the other one was won by little pippin,if you could rely on those two running exact same races dropped into a 0-55 then optima petamus would be the most obvious pick is current fav,although still a sixteen race maiden that's how bad the race is..
Generally 14/1 bar a couple of books.
16/1 now skybet/sportsbook/ppower looks a bit ominous jack blane almost fav as well..now with optima petamus.
As per the form and jock bookings worked out perfect on recent form,as write up Jack blane and Optima petamus hope some had a couple of savers,they both came out of that race 11 days ago when 2nd and 3rd might give mr cool cash another chance was 13/2 at one pouint and almsi doubled in price by the off..
Newcastle 8.0
Totally magic. 10/1 lads.9/1 skybet/ppower/sportsbook/victor/coprals/unibet/betway..
A bit like Mr cool cash hoping on a revival,shown nothing on recent runs at newcastle although 2/7 on the aw both over this c/d off 58 and 61,hasn't wo a race since those runs back in 2016 but was fourth in a 0-75 over tomorrows c/d september 2017.Had an opportunity in one of these 0-60 back in july over c/d well beaten 5ls off 60 and behind sumner beach runner tomorrow in samje race at redcar in august,a bit more promise last time out at ripon when although only sixth that was a 0-75 behind give it some teddy a far better race than tomorrows and whittakers hoptses have been running better.Has been given another four pound drop from 58 to 54 so maybe worth following now as aw season starts and off lowest ever mark..Another that if at it's best would be quite well backed in this grade although therte are several in here lightly raced and could be improvers.
Hamilton 4.0
Kylie rules 16/1skybet 7 runners 3 places 11/1 marathionbet
A maiden after 13 runs and probably up against it but has been secon over this c/d off 67 before on soft ground and ran well at carliske against older horses on desperate ground behind dasheen still form not good enough against unexposed 3yr olds with these ratings but goes on the ground and some of these havn't yet..worth a small ew bet off 64.
Backed into 5.4 insane stuff..
Probably add another in yet for multiple..
Mr Cool Cash 14/1 sportsbook/ppower/skybet
Absolutely desperate ground at hamilton am not sure this bad a ground will suit Mr Cool Cash as although his best form is on soft or gd/sft the ground is heavy at hamilton, one run he's had on it well beaten,not many positives thios season well beaten in all runs but has only had soft ground once and that was on seasonal debut off 64 at donny staying on beaten 8ls over 7fs.
Five runs on and down to a mark of just 48 in a 0-55 wouldv'e been a warm favourite in this race 12 months ago,second off 66 at ponte in a 0-80 had won a race earlier in the season off 66 did run some poor races as well and on soft ground after that,it's such a poor race worth a speculatuve bet to see if he retains anywhere near that ability,alistair rawlinson booked as well a jock i like but regular jock connor beasley rides jack blane so perhaps stable are not expecting much..Think betting should be a huge pointer in horse capable of winning off 66 last season now off 48,if stable have aimed at these type of races you would expect it to be heavily backed,might be worth giving another chance to, even if no show tomorrow as the ground will be an extreme..
There were two 0-60s run over this c/d on the same day and same grade 11 days ago the fav optima petamus was the quickest of the pair,the other one was won by little pippin,if you could rely on those two running exact same races dropped into a 0-55 then optima petamus would be the most obvious pick is current fav,although still a sixteen race maiden that's how bad the race is..
Generally 14/1 bar a couple of books.
16/1 now skybet/sportsbook/ppower looks a bit ominous jack blane almost fav as well..now with optima petamus.
As per the form and jock bookings worked out perfect on recent form,as write up Jack blane and Optima petamus hope some had a couple of savers,they both came out of that race 11 days ago when 2nd and 3rd might give mr cool cash another chance was 13/2 at one pouint and almsi doubled in price by the off..
Newcastle 8.0
Totally magic. 10/1 lads.9/1 skybet/ppower/sportsbook/victor/coprals/unibet/betway..
A bit like Mr cool cash hoping on a revival,shown nothing on recent runs at newcastle although 2/7 on the aw both over this c/d off 58 and 61,hasn't wo a race since those runs back in 2016 but was fourth in a 0-75 over tomorrows c/d september 2017.Had an opportunity in one of these 0-60 back in july over c/d well beaten 5ls off 60 and behind sumner beach runner tomorrow in samje race at redcar in august,a bit more promise last time out at ripon when although only sixth that was a 0-75 behind give it some teddy a far better race than tomorrows and whittakers hoptses have been running better.Has been given another four pound drop from 58 to 54 so maybe worth following now as aw season starts and off lowest ever mark..Another that if at it's best would be quite well backed in this grade although therte are several in here lightly raced and could be improvers.
Hamilton 4.0
Kylie rules 16/1skybet 7 runners 3 places 11/1 marathionbet
A maiden after 13 runs and probably up against it but has been secon over this c/d off 67 before on soft ground and ran well at carliske against older horses on desperate ground behind dasheen still form not good enough against unexposed 3yr olds with these ratings but goes on the ground and some of these havn't yet..worth a small ew bet off 64.
Backed into 5.4 insane stuff..
Probably add another in yet for multiple..
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Two of your picks trickie dickie and pushkin museum running this evening. Well backed.
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Have been unwell possibly another pneumonia,waiting on chest xrays and on anti nbiotics hopefully will not be admitted again so won't be posting much although will be watching the racing stioll and a biot of form if up to it,one runner i think could be a huge gamble in the Balmoral handicap although last year never ra in it and is entered next saturday at ascot as well but will still do it anyway as can see it going off a lot shorter than currenat price.
Balmoral handicap
Raising sand 14/1 365/hills/betfred/totesport
Raising sand
A 6yr old but still very lightly raced just twenty runs,18 on turf 5 wins has run some decent eyecatching races this season on gd/fm ground but never won on anything faster than good.also 8th in cambridgeshire today but ground was gd/fm was a non runner two years ago when entered over same c/d on same ground,that was becaise of the ground so still ran ok finising 8th today.Last season won off 92 and ran its best ever races when running on favourite track ascot,a third to Accidental agent and Lord glitters in next weeks race off 98 on gd/sft ground those two were rated 103 and 102 at that point now both rated 116 thats what it was up against so an outstanding piece of ascot soft ground form.
Raising sands been 1/1/3/4 at ascot when the grounds been good or worse abd even though this season has been 17/7/8 has run well all those runs staying on at finish on gd/fm ground ,is off 98 now same as third last season might get dropped another pound after today.Have looked at the front 6/7 in the blamoral market and non of those runners have course and ground form comparable to the run of raising sands run in the ascot race,that race looks a stronger race than the balmoral especially for raising sands if the ground comes up soft which is highly likely on the day.The prices may not seem overly generous but i would have it infront of the first six in betting idf condiotions are right,plenty of gd/fm ground for others that's good but those horses look likely to have conditions against them...
The balmoral was won by lord glitters last season and accidental agent was 4th just two weeks after raising sands finished third to them,so that track form just looks better and better wouldn't even surprise me if it went off favourite..
There might be a couple of books that go 16/1 yet but as long as grounds not gd/fm its going to be shorter..
Balmoral handicap
Raising sand 14/1 365/hills/betfred/totesport
Raising sand
A 6yr old but still very lightly raced just twenty runs,18 on turf 5 wins has run some decent eyecatching races this season on gd/fm ground but never won on anything faster than good.also 8th in cambridgeshire today but ground was gd/fm was a non runner two years ago when entered over same c/d on same ground,that was becaise of the ground so still ran ok finising 8th today.Last season won off 92 and ran its best ever races when running on favourite track ascot,a third to Accidental agent and Lord glitters in next weeks race off 98 on gd/sft ground those two were rated 103 and 102 at that point now both rated 116 thats what it was up against so an outstanding piece of ascot soft ground form.
Raising sands been 1/1/3/4 at ascot when the grounds been good or worse abd even though this season has been 17/7/8 has run well all those runs staying on at finish on gd/fm ground ,is off 98 now same as third last season might get dropped another pound after today.Have looked at the front 6/7 in the blamoral market and non of those runners have course and ground form comparable to the run of raising sands run in the ascot race,that race looks a stronger race than the balmoral especially for raising sands if the ground comes up soft which is highly likely on the day.The prices may not seem overly generous but i would have it infront of the first six in betting idf condiotions are right,plenty of gd/fm ground for others that's good but those horses look likely to have conditions against them...
The balmoral was won by lord glitters last season and accidental agent was 4th just two weeks after raising sands finished third to them,so that track form just looks better and better wouldn't even surprise me if it went off favourite..
There might be a couple of books that go 16/1 yet but as long as grounds not gd/fm its going to be shorter..
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ulleyseys46
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wishing you a speedy recovery and goodluck with raising sand
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,Catterick 4.30
Paco Escostar 14/1 365..9/1 skybet all other books 12/1 victor 10/1 blacktype
Paco Ecostar has only had the 9 runs 4 places from 7 on turf,joined julie camacho from midgley stable and on 2nd start was backed went off 13/2 in a 0-75 over tomorrows c/d decent form compared to tomorrows race,beaten by alsvinder with plernty of 70 rated horses well behind just a 0-65 tomorrow,runs off same mark of 66 but the claimer tales off another 7 pound.On that run the prices look massive,but two runs since on the aw have shown nothing like that form on newcastle surface,betting will be interesting as well in on the catterick run the ground should be similar as long as not overwatered an interesting runner. Really to show any confidence it going off 13/2 in that 0-75 tomorrow a 0-65 from a stabpe that has a 15% strike rate this season,should be going off shortter than that 13/2 off a 6 pound lower mark in weaker race if stable thinking it will repeat previous foprm./
Huge drift from 9/2 out to 12s on betfair,had a place saver on 4 places at evens so stake back the amount of bets i put on here that come 4th must be 50%,seems to be the way to bet as it keeps happening trouble is it just ruins the multiples all the time.
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Ew multiples
Bath 2.10
Swiss pride 7/1 365/sportsbook/ppowert 8/1 hills 15/2 skybet/totesport/betfred
One piece of form in a 6f nursery at goodwood off 77 when 4th that was far and away its best form,doesn't have a consistent profile but runs off 75 tomorrow claimer takes off 5 pound down to 70,the most interesting runners are the next two in ghandicap lightly raced compsred to rest of field //and probably likeliest winners.Swiss pride has ew chances if produces the goodwood form..
3.50
Fanfair 13/2 sportsbook/ppower/corals 6/1 skybet/lads/totesport/betfred/boyles
Fanfair another that looks more of a place chance than anything else,is a c/d winner but would have to run best ever race to win this ran better last time out behind mystic meg at sandown strictly on a line through the winner can't beat lopito tomorrows fav but at least has right ground decent draw and rossa ryan taking off 3 pound...There are quite a few lightly raced 3yr olds in race and they wouldn't have to be very good to win this so looks more of ew chance than win.
7/1 skybet and few fiorms 8/1 marathinbet.
Some forms playing 4 places and this one comes 5th as well,unreal stopped riding and got collared some desperate luck on these places..
5.30
Edge 6/1 sportsbook/ppower 11/2 generally 16/1 Suitsus 16/1 365/lads/victor
A ridiculously competitve looking handicap edge is a 7yr old thats runs over a mile and upto 1m2fs has never won on gd/fm ground sio again probanlt playing for places,runs opff 55 tomorrow and another 5 pound claim so off 50 last winning mark..Was badly hampered at this track last time out althiough that was over 2furlongs further and was only a 0-55 still looks to have a decent place chance.was 4th to coachella in same race tomorrow but 14 pound better off although admittedly this could be better..
Suitsus is speculative a c/d winner off 61 last season,has only been seen on the turf once this season when tongue tie was off very strange,but its run previous to that on the aw at kempton was respectable 6th of 14 in a 0-65 had one of tomorrows favs behind as well unbridkled spirit,there's nothing to say the horse is in form but tyongue ties back on,back to its c/d win and off a mark of 59..Trainer geoffrey deacon has onky had one winner all season so will probably druift anyway but any late money wopuld be interesting on last seasons form whebn it won a 0-70
Suitus 25/1 marathonbet 365/skybet
6.0
Aye aye skipper 11/1 generally 12/1 lads/365/corals
Aye aye skipper 8yr old now hasn't done a lot of winning on turf and is still above last winning mark although finley marsh negates that with his 5 off,ran second over this c/d back in june,then was runner up in a better class race over c/d off 53 in a 0-70 although only a small field.Unlikely looking winner as loads in form and some unexposed ones but still has a place chance,another ridiculously competitve looking race..but will do it as conditions track and ground suit..really you are hoping some others simply won't take to track,ground.../
Paco Escostar 14/1 365..9/1 skybet all other books 12/1 victor 10/1 blacktype
Paco Ecostar has only had the 9 runs 4 places from 7 on turf,joined julie camacho from midgley stable and on 2nd start was backed went off 13/2 in a 0-75 over tomorrows c/d decent form compared to tomorrows race,beaten by alsvinder with plernty of 70 rated horses well behind just a 0-65 tomorrow,runs off same mark of 66 but the claimer tales off another 7 pound.On that run the prices look massive,but two runs since on the aw have shown nothing like that form on newcastle surface,betting will be interesting as well in on the catterick run the ground should be similar as long as not overwatered an interesting runner. Really to show any confidence it going off 13/2 in that 0-75 tomorrow a 0-65 from a stabpe that has a 15% strike rate this season,should be going off shortter than that 13/2 off a 6 pound lower mark in weaker race if stable thinking it will repeat previous foprm./
Huge drift from 9/2 out to 12s on betfair,had a place saver on 4 places at evens so stake back the amount of bets i put on here that come 4th must be 50%,seems to be the way to bet as it keeps happening trouble is it just ruins the multiples all the time.
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Ew multiples
Bath 2.10
Swiss pride 7/1 365/sportsbook/ppowert 8/1 hills 15/2 skybet/totesport/betfred
One piece of form in a 6f nursery at goodwood off 77 when 4th that was far and away its best form,doesn't have a consistent profile but runs off 75 tomorrow claimer takes off 5 pound down to 70,the most interesting runners are the next two in ghandicap lightly raced compsred to rest of field //and probably likeliest winners.Swiss pride has ew chances if produces the goodwood form..
3.50
Fanfair 13/2 sportsbook/ppower/corals 6/1 skybet/lads/totesport/betfred/boyles
Fanfair another that looks more of a place chance than anything else,is a c/d winner but would have to run best ever race to win this ran better last time out behind mystic meg at sandown strictly on a line through the winner can't beat lopito tomorrows fav but at least has right ground decent draw and rossa ryan taking off 3 pound...There are quite a few lightly raced 3yr olds in race and they wouldn't have to be very good to win this so looks more of ew chance than win.
7/1 skybet and few fiorms 8/1 marathinbet.
Some forms playing 4 places and this one comes 5th as well,unreal stopped riding and got collared some desperate luck on these places..
5.30
Edge 6/1 sportsbook/ppower 11/2 generally 16/1 Suitsus 16/1 365/lads/victor
A ridiculously competitve looking handicap edge is a 7yr old thats runs over a mile and upto 1m2fs has never won on gd/fm ground sio again probanlt playing for places,runs opff 55 tomorrow and another 5 pound claim so off 50 last winning mark..Was badly hampered at this track last time out althiough that was over 2furlongs further and was only a 0-55 still looks to have a decent place chance.was 4th to coachella in same race tomorrow but 14 pound better off although admittedly this could be better..
Suitsus is speculative a c/d winner off 61 last season,has only been seen on the turf once this season when tongue tie was off very strange,but its run previous to that on the aw at kempton was respectable 6th of 14 in a 0-65 had one of tomorrows favs behind as well unbridkled spirit,there's nothing to say the horse is in form but tyongue ties back on,back to its c/d win and off a mark of 59..Trainer geoffrey deacon has onky had one winner all season so will probably druift anyway but any late money wopuld be interesting on last seasons form whebn it won a 0-70
Suitus 25/1 marathonbet 365/skybet
6.0
Aye aye skipper 11/1 generally 12/1 lads/365/corals
Aye aye skipper 8yr old now hasn't done a lot of winning on turf and is still above last winning mark although finley marsh negates that with his 5 off,ran second over this c/d back in june,then was runner up in a better class race over c/d off 53 in a 0-70 although only a small field.Unlikely looking winner as loads in form and some unexposed ones but still has a place chance,another ridiculously competitve looking race..but will do it as conditions track and ground suit..really you are hoping some others simply won't take to track,ground.../
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16/1 lads/corals..
Entered on saturday nearly always runs at ascot,ideally would like to see it unplaced and get a bigger [price so could risk it and wait but if it runs well then will obviously shorten..
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