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Originally posted by Melendez@Aug 22 2007, 03:22 PM
He may find it more entertaining at the new forum.
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I'd be lying if I said the same thought hadn't occurred to me. Something called Ardfin racing would be like a red rag to his bull.

As I've said before Phil combined a low bordem threshold with a degree of intelligence that he channeled into mischief making - its a potent combination. I agree with Dessie that if he wanted to find a way back to TH he's more than capable of doing it. I'd be equally certain that he wouldn't be able to contain himself though
 
Originally posted by Songsheet@Aug 22 2007, 11:40 AM
We supposedly live in a democratic society with the mantra that if you don't like the way something is run, get off your arse and change it. That's exactly what Griffin has done - TH doesn't own the copyright for a racing forum - if there's sufficient support for her Board it will survive - if there isn't, it won't. Hardly rocket science.
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Where has anyone implied that TH owns copyright for a racing forum? If Griffin was unhappy with the way TH was run, why did she agree to be a moderator and why didn't she air these concerns when she was? She also asked that she be allowed to remain a member here and still be able to post, hardly the actions of someone that didn't like it.

Her forum will survive if she gets new members, something she won't do until she gets a domain name and opens it to be able to be read by people not yet members. I am sure she will address those issues in time though. I hope it does work for her, as there are millions watch horse racing and the more forums the better.

The ultimate test will be when theres arguments etc on the board though, thats when it will become obvious you can't please all the people all the time.

Considering how long TH has been going, and how many members we have, I don't think we have done that bad. We are still one of the busiest independant/non profit forums on the internet that are based around UK racing, and that says it all.
 
Originally posted by dvds2000@Aug 22 2007, 05:37 PM
If Griffin was unhappy with the way TH was run, why did she agree to be a moderator and why didn't she air these concerns when she was? She also asked that she be allowed to remain a member here and still be able to post, hardly the actions of someone that didn't like it.

Her forum will survive if she gets new members, something she won't do until she gets a domain name and opens it to be able to be read by people not yet members. I am sure she will address those issues in time though. I hope it does work for her, as there are millions watch horse racing and the more forums the better.

The ultimate test will be when theres arguments etc on the board though, thats when it will become obvious you can't please all the people all the time.

Considering how long TH has been going, and how many members we have, I don't think we have done that bad. We are still one of the busiest independant/non profit forums on the internet that are based around UK racing, and that says it all.
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I became a Mod in the hope that I could influence some changes around here for the benefit of the members who either post regularly or at least did until recently. You have obviously forgotten the post I made in the Mods forum, a list of ways in which the forum could move forward, so yes I did air my concerns. One of the things I suggested with a software upgrade, v1.3 is as old as the hills, very very basic and an easy target for hackers. You said you were not prepared to invest any money in a site which had an uncertain future. It needn't cost the earth but it was one way in which TH could be improved, not just for it's members but also for it's staff. It's not just money it needs, it's time.

One of the biggest stumbling blocks this forum has Col is you. You're never here. It's like a ship with no captain. The staff work their socks off for no reward whatsoever. We all know being a Mod is a thankless task, we can't please everybody, but support from you would be a huge help. You are not commited enough to TH and it shows. You've been offered no end of help but have refused to accept it. Nobody can do anything about that other than you. You had the best racing forum on the internet and now look at it?

TH has been online since 2003 yet has only 463 members, of which 261 have made between 0 and 30 posts leaving a mere 202 some of which have moved on to FF or other forums, a lot who just vanished and of course some which will have been banned. The forum shows 273374 posts - ummm and where might they be then? The vast majority of those were years ago. In the past 12 months only 40 new members have joined, of those 40 only 32 have ever posted, of those 32 - 4 have more than 100 posts, 12 have posts in double figures the remaining 16 (50%) have below 10 posts. Wow thats impressive - not.

If you still believe TH is a thriving forum then you've got your head firmly buried in the sand.

As for my forum, I'm amazed at how well it's grown in such a short space of time. It will soon have a domain name and indeed a whole new name. As I've said before, it wasn't something that was planned for some time, it was up and running in days so of course it needs some work put into it. And as for dealing with trouble on the board, I have every faith in my staff that it will be dealt with quickly and with as little fuss as possible. I will do whatever is in their best interests.
 
I became a Mod in the hope that I could influence some changes around here for the benefit of the members who either post regularly or at least did until recently. You have obviously forgotten the post I made in the Mods forum, a list of ways in which the forum could move forward, so yes I did air my concerns.

One of the things I suggested with a software upgrade, v1.3 is as old as the hills, very very basic and an easy target for hackers. You said you were not prepared to invest any money in a site which had an uncertain future. It needn't cost the earth but it was one way in which TH could be improved, not just for it's members but also for it's staff. It's not just money it needs, it's time.
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This post (seeing as you are discussing what was said in mods only I presume you are ok with it being copied here)?
EDIT: As you have been on and read this post Ill take that as you have no problem with it. I did stay online for a while to see if you objected at all so I could edit it as required, but as you haven't I'll presume it's ok.

Originally posted by Griffin+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Griffin)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Well I've sat on my hands and watched the forum deteriorate even further recently and I think unless Col takes drastic action he might as well just close it. There are barely a handful of new topics started daily as opposed to topics in double figures over on FF, many started by members who belong here not there. It's such a shame.

It's time for the reveloution to arrive. A change of mods was just a small start. The software is in dire need of an upgrade, not just to make mods lives easier but also to improve the site for our ever dwindling number of regular members. With that upgrade would come the 'ignore' button that could be utilsed by so many. I've been told by a little bird the cost of that would be around £150 and I'd be happy to chip in a bit to help cover that if needed.

Secondly the rules need a re-vamp, and publically too so that our members can see we mean business. There should be zero tolerance on personal abuse. It's very very unfair to see the same few picked on on a regular basis. Gearoid should go for his comment about PDJs baby, nobody would miss Phil Waters, and Shadow Leader needs a bloody good telling off if she is to continue to be welcome on this forum. Her treatment of PDJ is disgusting, not to mention the lack of respect she has for ANYBODY else. Members like that are what is keeping others away. She's behaving like a troll lately and trolls like her and Phil we can do without.

There's my two pennies worth. Do nothing, and we might as well not bother coming here at all. [/b]
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To answer that publicly.

Firstly the stats for posts and visitors are almost the same as the same period last year. I copied and pasted them, for you, so you know they are.

Apart from the ignore button, what are these brilliant extra features an upgrade would offer? We haven't been hacked in the 4 years I've been using this board, so wheres the problem? I presume you are aware I do have all the security upgrades installed for this version? How would they benefit the users and mods? Considering the upgrade I will be doing at some point this year will be a real upgrade (ie to vbulletin), what does the latest version of invision offer that vb doesn't?

I think the rules are fine, and, TBH, this thread was started about the rules on your board being ridiculously long, so long that you have actually removed them from the sign up page as people were refusing to join. So I'll say at this point I'm happy they weren't changed.

As for the comments about the members, well that was your job, so I doubt you were referring to that part of it in today's post. So all in all, your list of ways to improve the forum consisted of upgrading the software (something I had every intention of doing at some point anyway), and re-writing the rules?

One of the biggest stumbling blocks this forum has Col is you. You're never here. It's like a ship with no captain. The staff work their socks off for no reward whatsoever. We all know being a Mod is a thankless task, we can't please everybody, but support from you would be a huge help.
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When did I not support you? Give me one example? Or are you reffering to things that happened before you were a mod by any chance?
I have never been here much, not even when it very first started, what difference does that make?

You are not commited enough to TH and it shows. You've been offered no end of help but have refused to accept it.
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Like what? Offering to pay for part of the upgrade? It isn't about the money. If I needed the money I would ask. I don't, and if the forum is being used then I have no problem spending it. What other help are you reffering to?

Nobody can do anything about that other than you. You had the best racing forum on the internet and now look at it?
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Still one of the busiest?

TH has been online since 2003 yet has only 463 members, of which 261 have made between 0 and 30 posts leaving a mere 202 some of which have moved on to FF or other forums, a lot who just vanished and of course some which will have been banned. The forum shows 273374 posts - ummm and where might they be then? The vast majority of those were years ago. In the past 12 months only 40 new members have joined, of those 40 only 32 have ever posted, of those 32 - 4 have more than 100 posts, 12 have posts in double figures the remaining 16 (50%) have below 10 posts. Wow thats impressive - not.
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Oh please, that really is grasping at straws. Come back in 4 years and show me your quarter of a million posts, your 463 members, don't forget to prune the posts every now and then, and delete members that haven't posted every now nad then too.

You want to talk stats, here you are

Posts
August 2006-August 2007 posts Total 83283
New Topics
August 2006-August 2007 new topics Total 3701

Thats an average of 228 posts per day, and 10 new topics per day.

Between May 24th and August 23rd last year we had 838 new topics posted, this year that fell to 760, a fall of 78 new topics, in a period when non racing chat was shut for a while, and it has fallen off. I would suggest the quality has gone up now as most the new topics this year have been started in the racing section, rather than about 30% of them being in chit chat the year before.

In the same period last year we had 21 new members, this year 12. Obviously registrations fall off over time, that happens to all forums everywhere.

One question, which, non commercial, no profit uk racing forums are more popular than TH?

If you still believe TH is a thriving forum then you've got your head firmly buried in the sand.
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Well I can only go from what the stats say, and as I read them it is hardly any different to last year.

As for my forum, I'm amazed at how well it's grown in such a short space of time. It will soon have a domain name and indeed a whole new name. As I've said before, it wasn't something that was planned for some time, it was up and running in days so of course it needs some work put into it.
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What I said about your forum needing a domain and being readable wasn't getting at you, it was a couple of suggestions you might like to take on board. I am actually ok at SEO so do know what google requires.

And as for dealing with trouble on the board, I have every faith in my staff that it will be dealt with quickly and with as little fuss as possible. I will do whatever is in their best interests.
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Time will tell.

Oh and what happened to

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I will not be seen slagging off TH in public, name calling and generally making a show of myself. [/quote]

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Oh, isn't it interesting to see what Miss-High-and-Mighty, look-at-me-I'm-perfect, nose stuck firmly in the air EDIT really thinks? Interesting, hmm? Not quite the li'l miss sweetness & light you profess to be then eh Griffin?

I tell you what love - if there's something I really detest it's fake people who lie through their teeth and attempt to keep up a sickly sweet persona when really they're nothing but a stuck up, frustrated EDIT underneath.
 
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Well I've sat on my hands and watched the forum deteriorate even further recently and I think unless Col takes drastic action he might as well just close it. There are barely a handful of new topics started daily as opposed to topics in double figures over on FF, many started by members who belong here not there. It's such a shame.
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The big race of the week was the Juddmonte. On here it generated six pages of posts. On FF just fourteen posts in total.

(Griffin)Gearoid should go for his comment about PDJs baby, nobody would miss Phil Waters, and Shadow Leader needs a bloody good telling off if she is to continue to be welcome on this forum. Her treatment of PDJ is disgusting, not to mention the lack of respect she has for ANYBODY else. Members like that are what is keeping others away. She's behaving like a troll lately and trolls like her and Phil we can do without.

There's my two pennies worth. Do nothing, and we might as well not bother coming here at all.
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It`s a shame you never had the kahunas to speak up when you were part of the forum. I thought SL`s treatment of PDJ (a guy who made 10,000+ posts here, not one of which contained anything of any interest) was one of the highlights of the chit chat section.
 
Why did I just know she'd take it well and sit on the fence shrug::

43 minutes :eek: Me thinkz she was tipped off :suspect: :laughing:

More seriously, I think TH has always had a bit of an edge to it, and a bit of creative tension adds to the forum. Obviously there are boundaries, and I suppose they're bound to be over stepped from time to time, and I haven't exactly been averse to calling for a bit of restraint when I think things have gone too far, so it would be hypocrticial of me to make out I'm all for freedom or 'anarchy' (in the sense that the media are currently misrepresenting one of the most idealistic and enlightend philosophies in political history that is).
 
Well, how do you expect me to take it Warbs??

Euro's right - interesting that she didn't ever have the balls to say anything to me previously, if you can't take it, don't dish it!!

Incidentally, I have been quite restrained - there is plenty I could, but won't, say - a lot of it to do with life choices.
 
Originally posted by Shadow Leader@Aug 22 2007, 11:54 PM
Well, how do you expect me to take it Warbs??
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Pretty much how you did Dom norty

I have to say, I've got no idea whether you had a personal friendship with Griff or not. If you did, then I can certainly appreciate that it would be a quite hurtful betrayal of sorts
 
Lets keep the thread civil please

This thread was going to be closed it it developed into a 'lets all slag off another forum' thread, lets see if it can stay open.

Obviously I'm going to respond to a post like that though, but theres no need for things to get out of hand.
 
Ok, the lid's back on fellas - apologies, that was a small slice of the instant reaction! :laughing:
 
Don't worry Dom, all good forums need their resident troll. If you don't mind being our's I'm sure every one will be happy to feed you :D
 
Just so long as you feed me decent food, preferably from Waitrose, and none of that cheap shite!
 
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