Imperial Cup Sandown

Desert Orchid said:
There was a phase when Scoop6 winners chasing the bonus would not commit to any selection on TV in the morning. By the afternoon they would often have found the winner. I suspected at the time C4 were ensuring they got access to the right trainers and were being steered in a certain direction.
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You hold trainers' opinions in higher esteem than I do.

My view was that by the afternoon they'd simply come round to backing the favourite on the simple premise that it was the likeliest winner.
 
Sporting Boy at 65.0 isn't a forlorn hope. His form is progressive, has won 4 from his last 6 and the two defeats were after a break...wouldn't be surprised to see that last effort left well behind today. At the prices its worth a shot
 
I backed Paintball so I suppose the fact they've withdrawn him means I don't lose. My main allegiances now switch to Arnaud. The UK handicapper has let him in 6lbs lower than his last Irish OR. They usually go at least that much in the other direction so our guy must be quite suspicious about the races he's run in. However, some of the opposition from those races will be expected to run well during the week so I'm going along with a generous reading of the form.

Barizan and General Miller are the sickness insurance jobs.
 
I suspect connections were hoping for better ground for Arnaud. It is indeed unusual that he will race today off a lower mark than his latest Irish rating, but that mark of 141 was given for running well in a little race at Cork being used by good horses with targets elsewhere. I think it was harsh to stick him up 11lbs for it.

Presumably the worry about Sporting Boy is whether he has the stamina for today's conditions. An outsider who should enjoy them and who might be ahead of the handicapper is Rockawango, but there doesn't seem to be any money for him.

All things considered, Mr Mole is hard to knock.
 
gus said:
You hold trainers' opinions in higher esteem than I do.

My view was that by the afternoon they'd simply come round to backing the favourite on the simple premise that it was the likeliest winner.
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Exactly! If you're chasing the bonus on your own then you wait as late as possible and go for the current favourite.
 
i think the fav may be being overrated a little due to the Melodic Rendevous form. MR has improved a lot since that run which could inflate the worth of that race. If you work from the 3rd horse in that race..the italian yob..has since been beaten off 122..the form doesn't look that special. That would make Moley about a 125+ horse as he won readily. ..but then got beat 7 lengths. Last run won really easy from Home Run..but is now off 138..12 higher in todays hotter race.
 
If General Miller still has his ability from 2 seasons back, and you consider his latest run a run-out to get him fit for today, he could be a stone well-in. A huge price, but maybe too good of one.

The favourite looks to have plenty of improvement off current mark.

Lyvius may also be worth a saver at 66s.
 
Hamm said:
If General Miller still has his ability from 2 seasons back, and you consider his latest run a run-out to get him fit for today, he could be a stone well-in. A huge price, but maybe too good of one.

The favourite looks to have plenty of improvement off current mark.

Lyvius may also be worth a saver at 66s.
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welcome back..festival entices;)
 
Hamm said:
If General Miller still has his ability from 2 seasons back, and you consider his latest run a run-out to get him fit for today, he could be a stone well-in. A huge price, but maybe too good of one.

The favourite looks to have plenty of improvement off current mark.

Lyvius may also be worth a saver at 66s.
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Good to see you back, Hamm (you still in France?).

General Miller is a thief, imo. :cool:
 
swedish chef said:
barizan - first avenue & home run - all e/way for me and all look well in on my figures with barizan and home run on the form of beating sametegal l/t/o allowing 9lb reduction for wfa and meginisi has already franked that form
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First avenue is a horse waiting to happen imo - jockey a slight cause for concern but does claim 10lb.

Have already backed them and hoping pricewise picks at least one of them :d
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ding dong!! :d
 
reet hard said:
Good call, Chief.
Reckon Tom Scu threw the race away, though.
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He's not in my good books. If he'd conserved an ounce of energy during that race he'd have gone a lot closer, same mistake as in the Fred Winter. The Pipe yard looking like half wits is not something you expect to see, they need the old man back.

Well done Chef pleased for you fella.
 
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Well done chef but far too early to draw any conclusions about the horses in that race - this looks the worst ground I have seen in ages - a complete bog in the home straight .
 
Reckon the owners will be well pissed off with Scudamore on Kazlian ,might well have cost them £130,000 plus including the potential bonus next week.
 
You and me both DG! I was counting some extra betting money for next week there until the 2nd last.

For those of you who think MCP isn't around, have friend who works there who says DP isn't allowed to blink without his say-so. Everything is run by him first.
 
jinnyj said:
You and me both DG! I was counting some extra betting money for next week there until the 2nd last.

For those of you who think MCP isn't around, have friend who works there who says DP isn't allowed to blink without his say-so. Everything is run by him first.
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Yes very true, MCP runs it just doesn't do the media which he was never comfortable at anyway.
Been there and seen it myself
 
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