Irish Horse Meat in UK Food

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harry

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Not surprised there hasnt been a thread on this!
Absolute disgrace and a shame on Irish food production

Ive never bought Irish meat as I have never trusted it...thank the lord
 
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From what I have read so far the origin of the horsemeat found so far is France and Poland. Lots more to be revealed, I'm sure, but definitely a tad premature in saying it was Irish meat.
Prudently I would make sure I knew enough about the meat supply chain before I ventured such an opinion.
 
What a stupid opening comment.At least try and understand what happened. Irish farmers produce the highest quality product. Filler sourced from abroad and used by one processor in particular, has been shown to contain horse meat. This was discovered by Irish quality control. If you asked why the end product had been legally sold as 100% Irish beef we could have a discussion about EU food law etc rather than making comments that betray your attitude to the Irish.
 
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Theres nothing wrong with Irish meat . Every bit as good as British . I hear theres a problem with seahorse in the fish fingers now.I gotta get out of the food trade it seems
 
Just seen a few horses hiding in a bush from lasagne chefs. One said to the others don't think they'll Findus in here.
 
harry said:
Not surprised there hasnt been a thread on this!
Absolute disgrace and a shame on Irish food production

Ive never bought Irish meat as I have never trusted it...thank the lord
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Not far away from being a racist comment Harry.The problem as I see it is large supermarket chains looking to sell 8 burgers for €2.
 
harry said:
Not surprised there hasnt been a thread on this!
Absolute disgrace and a shame on Irish food production

Ive never bought Irish meat as I have never trusted it...thank the lord
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On behalf of the Irish people I would like to thank you for the last Foot and Mouth outbreak.

(seeing as were throwing mud)
 
The food industry in general has questions to answer. The large processors, packagers and Retailers.Anyone really think Tesco didn't know about a third of their economy 'beef' burger wasn't beef.Why is the information on packaging allowed be so ambiguous and misleading. I think the Farmers work to the highest standards but the reat of the chain doesn't.
 
It may dissappoint a lot of you ,but I have served all the supermarkets in Britain and Ireland for about forty years. The people with the most stringent quality control of them all is Tesco
 
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The food industry in general has questions to answer. The large processors, packagers and Retailers.Anyone really think Tesco didn't know about a third of their economy 'beef' burger wasn't beef.Why is the information on packaging allowed be so ambiguous and misleading. I think the Farmers work to the highest standards but the reat of the chain doesn't.
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Exactly right - believe me, the amount of hoops we farmers have to jump through before we can sell an animal is considerable and it's pretty heartbreaking to have to put up with the sh*t we do, only to find headlines like those over the past two weeks.... I have no problem with horsemeat becoming standard in our everyday foodstuffs, as long as it is correctly produced, prepared and labelled so that the end consumer can make their own choice as to whether to purchase or not.

Tesco's may well have outwardly stringent quality controls, Roddy, but the very fact that they are where they are at the top of the supermarket pile is because they screw their suppliers right down to the last cent. Fair enough, we live in a free market but if their quality controls were that good, they would be quite well aware that your suppliers - always the middlemen - will cut every corner they can. All Tescos have been doing (and the other supermarkets) is turning a blind eye to what has been going on - do you really expecte to believe the buyers were unaware of the potential for fraud by their suppliers? dream on...! This applies to meat and milk equally.

I am hoping this debacle means a boost for the Marts ie, the traditional livestock markets which have been under the cosh for the past couple of decades due to the rise and rise of slaughter houses/processors like ABP and their ilk. Hands up, we've sent cull cows to ABP and Pickstocks and Southern Meats on occasion, because they were having to pay top price due to beef shortages and because, due to the closure of so many smaller abattoirs because of excessive over regulation, our options are more limited than they used to be. I'd like a return to be able to send stock to the Mart and, if I don't get the price I believe they're worth, then be able to take them home again without being shutdown for seven days, having to have isolation facilities for them and, as we run a high health herd, not having to pay money for retesting them before they're allowed back into the herd!

If you want to know what you're eating, then buy the basic product from your local butcher and cook it yourself! Every animal - lamb, pig and beef - you eat is fully traceable if produced here in the UK and the same goes for Ireland. Sure there are shysters out there who try and beat the system, from farmers up the food chain but they're still in the minority and it's the rest of us who pay the price.
 
Roddy Owen said:
It may dissappoint a lot of you ,but I have served all the supermarkets in Britain and Ireland for about forty years. The people with the most stringent quality control of them all is Tesco
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That's doesn't seem believeable Roddy.:confused: Too much contradictory evidence.
 
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Buy from a good quality butcher or Waitrose!

You can see the difference in meat quality/colour if you are picking it out yourself.

If you are paying £2 for 8 burgers how do you think anyone can make a profit from that?

Just had some rather scrummy Venison sausages tonight - perhaps thats the way forward - eat more Game?!
 
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All these bad jokes leaves a bad taste in my mouth, not that I've ever knowingly ate horse meat (though one village I once had a steak in seemed remarkably short of cats!!
 
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