Irish Horse Meat in UK Food

Sheikh said:
Do people who fly a lot for work still find Capalls point no. 2 is still 'a given' ?
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In general yes, but the margin is decreasing, thats for sure. That is why it is essential for us on the island that Ryanair don't complete the Aer Lingus acquisition.

Regarding smiling, pleasantries and good manners, of course I agree with the points DO makes, it is QED. However, I fly Ryanair about 50 times a year and to say it is always grumpy and grim is an overstatement. TBH I cannot recall one flight being late in the last 50, barring a fog delay at Prestwick in December. My customer service expectation is that they leave and arrive on time and average about 20% cheaper than others. My average flight time is about 60 mins so I don't really care about the 'welcome' factor tbh.

Related: I fly transatlantic about 5 or 6 times a year, business. I have flipped from Aer Lingus to BA because of the grumpiness of the cabin crew on AL. If I am paying 5K for a return flight - then I DO expect a smile.

Further: I've spent some time in MOLs company through racing over the years. You'd never confuse him with a fluffy bunny, but he is certainly not the ogre he plays in public on aviation related matters. And great craic too.
 
Sheikh said:
Do people who fly a lot for work still find Capalls point no. 2 is still 'a given' ?
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Ah, I thought you were referring to the bj.

The first few times I flew with Ryanair I thought they were great. Most definitely cheap and most definitely cheerful. I thought they were a godsend to people like us who wanted to check out places they normally wouldn't think of doing.

Hopping over to Dublin for a weekend rather than going to the pictures and getting a takeaway suddenly became an option. And it was a pleasant experience.

Now it's a needs-must situation.

I wonder if the Ryanair staff are a bit p1ssed-off in their job and can't hide it.

Like I said, it must be five years, maybe more, since I flew with them and I don't remember a single smile from check-in (at Prestwick) to landing (Dublin).

I wouldn't say I'd never fly with them again, but I'd always look elsewhere first, partly due to the negativity of that last experience.

If it's a one-off flight, I'd probably pay 20% more to go with another company rather than give O'Leary my business. If I was flying regularly and the costs were coming out of my own pocket then they would obviously add up over a year so would have to be a serious consideration. I'd just have to bite the bullet, I suppose.

I just don't see why they can't be cheap, easy to figure out their prices and cheerful.
 
DO, I don't see mass demonstrations or the like therefore we have eaten horse and are shrugging our shoulders.

Does raise a question if they can put 'horsey' into our burgers, what might be in those sachets of dog and cat food!

MR2
 
montyracing2 said:
DO, I don't see mass demonstrations or the like therefore we have eaten horse and are shrugging our shoulders.
MR2
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Why would there be mass demonstrations? What would be the point? There is no evidence that masses of us have eaten horsemeat. That's not shoulder-shrugging. It's more like a refusal to believe it actually happened to us.

I'm not convinced I've been given horsemeat but for many years I avoided certain takeaways as I believed the outlets might have been serving cat or dog. I have never eaten and never will eat kebab meat.

montyracing2 said:
Does raise a question if they can put 'horsey' into our burgers, what might be in those sachets of dog and cat food!
MR2
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I doubt very much the dogs or cats would care so long as it tasted OK to them.
 
Desert Orchid said:
OK, Ryanair is basically a bus in the sky. And at times it does remind me of the old Glasgow Corporation or SMT bus drivers and conductors/conductresses, who could be a bit rough around the edges.
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That's pretty much how I see it: just another mode of getting from A to B. I'm not particularly pushed about niceties - particularly as most of the flights I'm on are either early in the morning or late at night. I'm usually either going to a client meeting or a football match, so getting there on time is of paramount importance really.

If they weren't cheaper (still are for me, even if days of return flights for a tenner or a score are long gone) or if I was flying to America or Hong Kong or going on holidays I would probably find it considerably harder to bear.
 
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My sister was excitedly telling me today that she had booked her trip to Paris for 40th wedding anniversary in a few weeks time but asked me what the French for horse was as determined not to eat any whilst in foreign pastures. It's not when they say it is horse you have to worry says I.

Ryanair: last time flew with them grumpy cabin crew and couldn't understand a word they said during the safety instructions or any other announcements.
 
icebreaker said:
Hey Gigilo .............. my main man !
All respect to the best pundit on the internet !

Fella, I've had a lay-off for a couple of weeks from regular punting -- actually an enforced lay-off due to a few accounts having been closed as a result of "doing" your picks ( Bet365, Boyles, even Laddies). :lol:
(Just betting on the USA racing via Betfair at the mo').

But I'll be opening some new accounts shortly -- I'm waiting until the tasty sign-up bonus's that the bookies usually offer in the run up to Cheltenham. Then, normal business will resume. :)

I'm still looking in daily at your posts tho', marvellous stuff as always.
Keep up the good work, dude. :thumbsup:
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Good to know your winning anyway,might try and get those new accounts as well going to be a nightmare this turf season with no accounts.:o
 
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