Ladbrokes Trophy Chase. Newbury. December 2nd.

Desert Orchid said:
It seems to be Culloty's MO to make them look ultra-iffy ahead of landing quiet gambles and LS does have bits and bobs of very smart form.
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Cullotty doesnt land quiet gambles-at a guess most of his winners are easy to back-not sure if this is because he hasn't a clue or his owners aren't obsessed with landing a gamble.
 
13 winners from 236 runs in the past 5 years suggests it's Culloty's MO to simply not win many races.
 
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Latest scratchings:

Shantou Flyer
General Principle
Tiger Roll
Roi Des Francs
Mala Beach
Flintham
Lord Scoundrel

So, two of my preferred outers don't go. A Genie In A Bottle now Gigginstown's sole representative left.
 
Grasshopper said:
Latest scratchings:

Shantou Flyer
General Principle
Tiger Roll
Roi Des Francs
Mala Beach
Flintham
Lord Scoundrel

So, two of my preferred outers don't go. A Genie In A Bottle now Gigginstown's sole representative left.
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And looks to have decent claims IMO.
 
Who actually owns Bet Bright? Is it Rich Ricci? Does Nicky Henderson write stuff for them?
I'm just curious as they seem to be happy to continually lay 25/1 about Vyta Du Roc, which surely won't last.
I reckon its a 7/4 chance Vyta Du Roc, starts at single figure odds on the day, personally :)
 
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Looks like a lot more runners are scratched than that Grassy if you've used the RP I think they are just very slow updating as per.
 
Marble said:
Who actually owns Bet Bright? Is it Rich Ricci? Does Nicky Henderson write stuff for them?
I'm just curious as they seem to be happy to continually lay 25/1 about Vyta Du Roc, which surely won't last.
I reckon its a 7/4 chance Vyta Du Roc, starts at single figure odds on the day, personally :)
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When SFP was about to run at Cheltenham in October I had a decent ew bet on the horse for the day's race but I took particular note of Tom Segal's comments to the effect that although SFP was probably the most likely winner he would oppose because the Ladbroke was the main target. Luckily that stopped me from a substantial win bet on the day but I split the sum I was about to invest ew on the horse for the Ladbroke at 16's and 14's. The horse was given a nice workout, allowed to drop to almost the rear then cut through the field with ease reaching a position where he was not quite going to catch the winner but an easy second. Could not have been a better prep. I reinvested the day's profit ew for the Ladbroke.
Were one of the lesser bookies still offering double figures for SFP I wouldn't be complaining, rather I'd be filling my boots to whatever extent allowed.
If you think the price is far too high on VDC, take it and lay off on the day.
 
Marble said:
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Vyta Du Roc runs in the Bristol de Mai colours. "We were looking at the Rehearsal and the Becher but he is going to run," Henderson adds. "He had a run over hurdles the same day as Top Notch and you saw how much good that did him. He has stamina in abundance."

just now at the press conference
 
Tout Seul said:
When SFP was about to run at Cheltenham in October I had a decent ew bet on the horse for the day's race but I took particular note of Tom Segal's comments to the effect that although SFP was probably the most likely winner he would oppose because the Ladbroke was the main target. Luckily that stopped me from a substantial win bet on the day but I split the sum I was about to invest ew on the horse for the Ladbroke at 16's and 14's. The horse was given a nice workout, allowed to drop to almost the rear then cut through the field with ease reaching a position where he was not quite going to catch the winner but an easy second. Could not have been a better prep.
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I'm very much in the same camp, TS.

When he ran at Cheltenham I wrote:
Is Singlefarmpayment merely prepping for Newbury or do they feel he can defy a rise for winning this? I feel compelled to back him regardless and take my chances.
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It was when I heard the trainer's remarks pre-race - not dissimilar to Segal's - that I feared he was there to run well but avoid a penalty. In my review of the race I wrote:
I suspect they were trying to be just a bit clever with Singlefarmpayment ahead of the Henessy (or whatever it’s going to be called). Cogry went up 6lbs for winning. I suspect if Singlefarmpayment had touched him off he’d have gone up less but 6lbs wouldn’t have been too harsh given the figure I have for him in the Ultima. ..

It looked to me like the plan with Singlefarmpayment was to win if the race went his way but not to give him too hard a time of it. He did best of the hold-up group in a race in which they didn’t seem to be busting guts up front. He looks certain to run really well at Newbury.
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Tout Seul said:
When SFP was about to run at Cheltenham in October I had a decent ew bet on the horse for the day's race but I took particular note of Tom Segal's comments to the effect that although SFP was probably the most likely winner he would oppose because the Ladbroke was the main target. Luckily that stopped me from a substantial win bet on the day but I split the sum I was about to invest ew on the horse for the Ladbroke at 16's and 14's. The horse was given a nice workout, allowed to drop to almost the rear then cut through the field with ease reaching a position where he was not quite going to catch the winner but an easy second. Could not have been a better prep. I reinvested the day's profit ew for the Ladbroke.
Were one of the lesser bookies still offering double figures for SFP I wouldn't be complaining, rather I'd be filling my boots to whatever extent allowed.
If you think the price is far too high on VDC, take it and lay off on the day.
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I'm definitely not complaining one iota, I mentioned it because they are nearly twice the odds that everyone else go!

I'm on at 25's already each way, I'm in no particular rush to back him again.
 
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I was all over CD for the GN after his run in this last year at 33/1. Thought he was going to claw back Native River for a split second. Anyway, I'm staying loyal on Saturday ( and actually going too ), and will be backing weekly for the GN afterwards too.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I'm very much in the same camp, TS.

When he ran at Cheltenham I wrote:


It was when I heard the trainer's remarks pre-race - not dissimilar to Segal's - that I feared he was there to run well but avoid a penalty. In my review of the race I wrote:
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I watched him running riot and misbehaving before his run at Cheltenham and thought he'd got no chance after acting up like that. But it was his trainer's comments that struck me to the bit when he was questioned about his charge misbehaving. He said something along the lines of

"He's like that at home until he's had a run, that seems to calm him down so we'll get this out of the way and then we can start training him properly"

If that doesnt say it all nothing does!
 
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