"what piece of paper or fine words by the countries of the united nation whom are more concerned about oil supplies than any justice"
More concerned with oil supplies? What, unlike the USA and its oilmen led administration?
"perhaps and just perhaps if the un had ever shown any even handedness in the middle east rather than being a bunch of countries with their own agenda"
What, unlike the USA which is
really even-handed in its Middle East policy?
"isreal and the states may just have had some patience with the UN"
Ah, here you have hid on a point - you see, like those two countries themselves, it has slipped your mind that they are supposed to be a part of the UN!
"and instead of blaming amercia all the time"
I don't know how many times I have to make this clear - it is not America that I hold responsible, it is this corrupt, self-serving, God-bothering, current administration.
Under Clinton,and even under the present president's father, there were efforts to be a plausible mediator. This current president, inexperienced in foreign policy (and virtually everything else) listened to Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and others and in the first week of his presidency, advised to distance himself from the policies of his predecessor, abandoned the negotiations that were tantalisingly close to achieving something (similarly the negotiations with North Korea to which his own secretary of state, Colin Powell, was committed).
Syria and Iran, as far as the Bush administration is concerned, are to be ignored as spawn of the devil and cast into limbo. No lines of communication are allowed to exist.
I well recall debate on the previous forum when our government first mooted that it was to open talks with Sinn Fein/IRA. There were people who couldn't wait to post that democratically elected governments should never talk with terrorists. As I remember, my response was - so to whom should they talk in an attempt to achieve peace in Ireland? The Brighouse & Rastrick Brass Band?