Perpetual
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Hope you’re right as am on AP at fair prices for the RSA and to win any race, but not a fan of what I've seen so far. Hopefully it’s the Might Bite route to festival glory…
Novice Chasers 2020 / 2021
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Asked about the entry over 2m. The answer was Willie is block entering them all and running when he thinks the horse is ready so trip isn't in his thoughts right now. So no need to read too much into it.
A trip he needs to finish in the top 4 at some point to qualify for the NH Chase. I suspect if he takes up the engagement on Tuesday we know where he's heading. Willie will usually start his 3 mile novices over shorter.
I think that's fair.
Frankel
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Can you really see him winning an RSA?
He would do well to finish in the top 5.
Frankel
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Slow and doesn't travel. What's not to like.
Staggered when they suggested they could drop him back after his last run.
Always forgive them once is the principle I use. I wouldn't be ditching Latest Exhibition yet, and for me he's the each way value in the RSA market. Him at 16/1 and Next Destination at 20/1 at best prices, are effectively second and third favourite behind Monkfish, and are perfect ew multiple horses.
granger
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A lot
granger
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The big getaway was rank bad in what I saw of the split screen
Euronymous
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I couldn't believe Conflated's price last night. I took 6s at 365 as they were the first up and then Powers, Victor and the machine's sportsbook somehow offered 10/1. Do they have to price up so many races they don't bother looking at each horse's profile?
granger
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Laziness with an easy fav
The RSA has a few fancied horses in, most notably from Ireland. I'm not letting that put me off from fancying Shan Blue a bit though.
He hammered Snow Leopardess the last day when giving that horse nearly a stone in weight, and Snow Leopardess franked the form big time next time when winning a 25K handicap chase at Haydock last month. That's now a handicap chaser to follow.
Shan Blue is two from two over fences, and could run in the novice chase at Kempton on boxing day, which he is currently favourite for with one firm.
I am considering having my first anti-post bet for the festival on Shan Blue. His last win came over three miles so you'd think the RSA might be the right target, but like I said the big guns from Ireland are at the head of the market.
Anyone have any opinion on Shan Blue?
He's 25/1.... anti post rules would apply all that, plus three months is a long time in horse racing, it's a bit of a stab in the dark, but 25's could also look a decent price if he does the business on boxing day.
He hammered Snow Leopardess the last day when giving that horse nearly a stone in weight, and Snow Leopardess franked the form big time next time when winning a 25K handicap chase at Haydock last month. That's now a handicap chaser to follow.
Shan Blue is two from two over fences, and could run in the novice chase at Kempton on boxing day, which he is currently favourite for with one firm.
I am considering having my first anti-post bet for the festival on Shan Blue. His last win came over three miles so you'd think the RSA might be the right target, but like I said the big guns from Ireland are at the head of the market.
Anyone have any opinion on Shan Blue?
He's 25/1.... anti post rules would apply all that, plus three months is a long time in horse racing, it's a bit of a stab in the dark, but 25's could also look a decent price if he does the business on boxing day.
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barjon
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Agreed - see post 122 in the Noted in Running thread.
I'm sceptical of any Dan Skelton horse with two odds on wins at gaff tracks but have heard a few waxing about him. I wouldn't rule out that National Hunt Chase for it which is standard for every novice than stays further that 2m 1f. Maybe bet him when declared for Kempton.
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Grasshopper
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Rather than boost Shan Blue’s credentials based on not much more than his proximity in the Ballymore (and duffing-up no-marks in early-season novices), is there perhaps different angle to be explored - to wit, questioning exactly what Envoi Allen beat in that race, given the somewhat disappointing efforts of the placers (who at one point looked to have the new Pegasus in a bit of bother)?
I appreciate this is a somewhat heretical question, but of the faves for the three main Festival novices chases, isn‘t perhaps Envoi Allen the weakest of them, rather than the strongest?
PS. Drink has been taken.
I appreciate this is a somewhat heretical question, but of the faves for the three main Festival novices chases, isn‘t perhaps Envoi Allen the weakest of them, rather than the strongest?
PS. Drink has been taken.
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In lieu of an essay, No.
Skeletons got some decent novices this year. Shan Blue may well place in a RSA, but the Monk looks solid to me.
I’d have to see him again, purely because of his hurdles form. But even with the Shan Blue talk and Almankind today, I think Protektorat could be Skeltons best novice.
I’d have to see him again, purely because of his hurdles form. But even with the Shan Blue talk and Almankind today, I think Protektorat could be Skeltons best novice.
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Bit of an understatement DJ..Touch of the Martin Pipes about this Skelton team. They turn up with horse with no apparent worthwhile form, scare the hell out of the bookies and beat previous winners like they were trees..............agree on Protektorat but who knows what else is lurking in that yard
I think this was the most relevant part of your post. :lol: