Queen Elizabeth II Stakes

I wonder if the opposite of what generally occurs with some Godolphin purcahses will apply with Delegator. he may improve a lot for new connections and some would say (not me...i just dont really know0 that a move from Meehans would do the trick (think DJ certainly stated that :) )

First run for the blue team did look very good indeed
 
The ground is Good To Firm - O'Brien confirms Rip as a likely runner with Mastercraftsman there on stand by.
 
Delegator was a really good bet last time..easy 8f and little to beat..the bonus was a steady pace which helped him even more deliver the turn of foot.....this is a stiff 8f and a lot more to beat..a totally different ball game..i just can't see him having enough guns or stamina for this test
 
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Rip Van Winkle
Mastercraftsman
Poet
Windsor Palace
Set Sail
Delegator
Aqlaam
Ghanaati
Virtual
Famous Name
Zacinto
 
Coral: 10-11 Rip Van Winkle, 2-1 Delegator, 5-1 Aqlaam, 16-1 Famous Name, Zacinto, 25-1 Poet, Virtual, 200-1 Bar.
 
That seems quite big, no? If you consider RVW is a 132/133 horse, and Delegator perhaps 126, and Aqlaam 124/125 (being generous to both), then he seems quite big. Perhaps there's still a doubt about him turning up?

I wonder are people getting carried away with Delegator at Goodwood - he beat listed/Group 3 horses by a length and a half. The manner may have been taking, but the substance was that of a 121/122 horse.
 
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It's barely a contest on my figures and I'd probably have Aqlaam ahead of Delegator to be honest. Rip should win very easily but I wouldn't be keen on taking 11/10 with antepost rules applying knowing how frail he is!

If I was to back him, I'd be having a saver on MCM at 12/1 just in case.
 
I'm hoping that Famous Name will be good enough for this, but I suppose he has only an outside chance at best. Weld's other one Casual Conquest was run off his legs in Ireland over 10 furlongs.
 
Gamla Stan said:
It's barely a contest on my figures and I'd probably have Aqlaam ahead of Delegator to be honest. Rip should win very easily but I wouldn't be keen on taking 11/10 with antepost rules applying knowing how frail he is!

If I was to back him, I'd be having a saver on MCM at 12/1 just in case.
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Probably the best way to go.

Is Rip at all ground dependant?
 
SteveM said:
I'm hoping that Famous Name will be good enough for this, but I suppose he has only an outside chance at best. Weld's other one Casual Conquest was run off his legs in Ireland over 10 furlongs.
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Why should Famous Name reverse form with Aqlaam?
 
MCM does look tempting at an apparent huge price if RVW doesn't take part. I just wonder if the Irish race has effectively finished him off for the season and that he'll go out this season like he did last.
 
Galileo said:
Why should Famous Name reverse form with Aqlaam?
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...I don't think he will, but am hoping that he can. He's showed steady progress, but it'd probably be more of a difference of kind than degree to enable him to get this.
 
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