Robot Boy

While it's impossible to establish proper sectionals, my best guess as to where the marker poles are suggest they covered the last 2f in c24 secs, which (over a stiffish 5f like Newcastle) is hardly indicative of horses out on their feet.
Robot Boy looks a pace horse, rather than a quickener, so it's fairly safe to say (with only easy 5's at York and Longchamp remaining) that he won't be winning any gp1's this season. Given his capable trainer, it's not easy to predict how far he'll go eventually, but (off his new mark of 101) he's well capable of winning more handicaps - given the right circumstances.
 
I'll only have a tenner on for interest...because

D Barron at Ascot

1/77

A/E = a paltry 0.17

he was expected to get 6 winners at the odds..and only gained 1..not a course he does well at its fair to say.

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EC1 said:
I'll only have a tenner on for interest...because

D Barron at Ascot

1/77

A/E = a paltry 0.17

he was expected to get 6 winners at the odds..and only gained 1..not a course he does well at its fair to say.

courtesy of flatstats
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Incredibly small sample size given the competitiveness of the racing there?
 
the odds suggested 6 winners though Stan..which overrides that to a degree..

it doesn't mean it can't win obviously..but when i see a stat like that ..which for a trainer stat is large..it just tempers enthusiasm..like i say..will have a dabble..but would have preferred a flatter track..Ascot is stiffer than Newcastle..York would be my fav

he's 20/222 at York..with an A/E of 0.99..even though that is also competitive racing...and a flat track would play to horse strengths 100%

I'm still hoping for a Nunthorpe entry;)
 
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The stiff Ascot 5f on fast ground will be his absolute ideal, and I'll be amazed if he doesn't win or go very close.
York has a perfectly good 5f listed race he could have run in tomorrow - had his trainer been a bit daft.
 
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I can't see anything daft about winning a listed race....would you rather try and win a handicap at a course you are sh*te on or win a better race nearer home on a track that will play to the horse's strength?..tough decision that one

a flat track and proper 5f pace will see this one win a decent race

he made the wrong call imo
 
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The trainer clearly sees him as a handicapper (no Nunthorpe entry) and would have been bananas to ruin his mark by placing in a listed race. As it stands, he's picked up 10k for 3rd place, risen only 1lb for it, and lives to fight another day in similar company.
Whether the cards will fall as well as they did Saturday I'd sincerely doubt, and he'll probably struggle for the rest of the season. Portland at Donny might be his best opportunity.
 
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The trainer clearly sees him as a handicapper (no Nunthorpe entry) and would have been bananas to ruin his mark by placing in a listed race. As it stands, he's picked up 10k for 3rd place, risen only 1lb for it, and lives to fight another day in similar company.
Whether the cards will fall as well as they did Saturday I'd sincerely doubt, and he'll probably struggle for the rest of the season. Portland at Donny might be his best opportunity.
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The trainer was interviewed on RUK during the week and said the Nunthorpe was a possibility.
 
He'd have to be supplemented, and you'd have thought last Saturday's York Listed race ought to have been on his itinerary also.
 
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He'd have to be supplemented, and you'd have thought last Saturday's York Listed race ought to have been on his itinerary also.
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which was what i said he should have run in two posts back..would have won it imo..then they would have seen his real level on a flat track..which i believe has not yet been revealed...remember how good Black Caviar was on flat tracks,,ran lbs below uphill at Ascot...then again..if does run in Nunthorpe should get 25/1+

no i'm not saying he is BC..just using her as an example of how a horse can look a really good on a flat track where real speed is key..and look an inferior horse under less than speedy conditions
 
You'd go along way to find a 4 year old off his rating winning a Nunthorpe and only a fool would supplement him for it.

Barons might have said the Nunthorpe is a possibility but he'd be talking 2015 unless he was drunk.

20k down the drain? I doubt it.

He's improved a lot since last year.......almost like a different horse.

That's not down to him dropping in trip that's down to him maturing and considering he's won at the trip before he'd get 6f easy now.

My advise is if you see him entered for a 6f race anywhere ask your bookie for a price on the Ayr Gold Cup
 
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Very similar circumstances to last time, and you'd expect him to go close again. For mine, Milly's Gift beat him despite a pace bias, and I'd expect her to repeat the dose today..
 
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