The 2021 Grand National

He's the type of horse who needs to run, and there are scant few races around for his level/type.
BBB is DESPERATE to run, tomorrow called off obviously, and very , very few races around for him :(
 
God loves a trier (although I would die happier knowing O'Leary wasn't going to be in heaven with me):

https://www.racingpost.com/news/lat...-bid-and-take-in-irish-version-instead/472216


I couldn't help but smile at this quote:

"The handicapper has unfairly weighted Tiger Roll for the last two years in the UK. He's rated around 170 there and last won the Grand National off 159, and he's run four times since and not finished in the frame.

"He was beaten by Easysland at Cheltenham last year by 17 lengths off level weights – he is now rated 167 and yet somehow Tiger Roll is rated higher than he is.

"If the handicapper rates him fairly somewhere in the 150s then he'll run [at Aintree], but if he rates him in the 160s or 170s he won't. The plan has always been to go for the cross-country."

 
Interesting how this shapes out..
Any horse not mentioned is already qualified and has a handicap mark to almost get in...Ballot if necessary...


A Toi Phil…Needs to win, no entries…3m hcp somewhere?
Acapella Bourgeois
Achille …Needs to win, unlucky behind Notachance at Warwick…only got raised 4Lb….3m hcp somewhere?
Aforementioned
Agusta Gold …
Al Roc …
Alpha des Obeaux
Ami Desbois
Anibale Fly
Another Venture
Any Second Now …
Articulum…
Aso
Balko des Flos
Ballyoptic …
Battleoverdoyen …
Beau Bay …
Bellow Mome
Bellshill
Beware The Bear…
Blaklion…
Brahma Bull
Bristol de Mai…
Burrows Saint …
Cabaret Queen
Canelo
Cap du Nord Probably Needs to win to get in...Kim Muir?
Captain Drake
Champagne Classic …
Chris's Dream
Class Conti
Cloth Cap
Crievehill
Death Duty
Definitly Red …
Deise Aba...Needed to win and to qualify…won 17/2…should get in
Delta Work…
Discorama …Out for the season
Double Shuffle
Dounikos….
Easysland
Fagan
Farclas …probably needed to win…tried, failed …still needs to win…Out
Fingerontheswitch
Fitzhenry…
Flying Angel
Give Me A Copper
Glen Forsa .
Golan Fortune
Gold Present
Hear No Evil
Hogan's Height..
Hold The Note
Jerrysback …
Jett …
Kauto Riko..Never run over 3m+ ..Needs to qualify
Keeper Hill
Kimberlite Candy
Lake View Lad Already
Le Breuil….Needed to win to get in the race…flopped..cross country chase only entry?
Lord du Mesnil
Magic of Light
Milan Native
Minella Times...probably needed to win…tried, failed …still needs to win…Out
Minellacelebration
Mister Malarky
Monbeg Notorious …
Moyhenna
Musical Slave Needed to win to get in the race…fell….gambled on..out
Ok Corral
One Style …
Plan of Attack …Needs to win big
Potters Corner
Presenting Percy
Prime Venture
Pym
Roaring Bull
Robin des Foret…
Rocky's Treasure
Run Wild Fred ...Probably needs to win to get in...Kim Muir?
Saint Xavier
Santini
Saturnas
Secret Reprieve
Shantou Flyer …Needed to win big…won't get in?
Shattered Love
Some Neck
Soupy Soups…
St Barts
Storm Control
Sub Lieutenant
Takingrisks
Talkischeap .Needed to win and to qualify…won 40/1…should get in
The Conditional
The Hollow Ginge
The Jam Man
The Long Mile …
The Storyteller
Tiger Roll…
Tout Est Permis
Treacysenniscorthy …ran on the 8th in a race short of qualifying distance…needs to win big to qualify….watch this space..3m hcp somewhere???
Valtor…
Vieux Lion Rouge
Yala Enki
Yorkhill
 
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Forgive me, Maxbet, but that list reads as though nearly all of them still have to qualify? That can't be right, surely?

(No Airplane ripostes, please :))
 
Desert Orchid said:
Forgive me, Maxbet, but that list reads as though nearly all of them still have to qualify? That can't be right, surely?

(No Airplane ripostes, please :))
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If they haven't changed the rules, then it is right...which they have, so it isn't right, and you are Do....The current season was amended to career

They are blaming the qualification rules for the lowest amount of entries....




The Review Group proposed that the
the minimum age for a horse to be eligible to race
in the Grand National be raised to seven
years. While trainers supported the status
quo of six-year-old horses racing, the Review
Group did not find evidence of six-year-old
horses greatly contributing to the success of
the race.

• The Review Group recommended that future
participants in the Grand National must have
placed no lower than fourth in a recognised
Steeplechase event of three miles or further
at some point in their career. Moreover, the
Group felt that the suitability of a horse
should be assessed in the light of expanded
criteria, including Steeplechase experience,
staying ability, previous injuries or declining
performance.

• It is also recommended that the current
Rider eligibility criterion in the Grand
National should be expanded to require at
least 10 of the minimum 15 previous
Chase/Hurdle career wins to have been in
Steeplechases.
 
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If Delta Work stands his ground...Bottom weight will be no less than 10-04

Expect a mark of no more than 166...

allows bottom-weight in off 10-00
 
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Maxbet said:
The top line reads...Any horse not mentioned is already qualified and has a handicap mark to almost get in...Ballot if necessary...
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That's what caused me the confusion, Maxbet. It implies those mentioned still aren't qualified.

Yala Enki won over 3m4f recently, Yorkhill's win at Newcastle in November got him qualified, if he wasn't already. I only mentioned them because they were the first names I saw as I scrolled back up the screen so I'm jumping to the conclusion that there will probably be many others on the list that have already qualified.
 
I wish to fvck they would stop fannying about with inane, fawning interviews and just get on with the weights!
 
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I reckon a lot of people will think along the same lines, wilsonl, but I would want to take a step back before rushing to any conclusions.

It's not so much that Cloth Cap must win but I'd want to check if I have something I rate higher getting weight off him!

He should stay but there has to be a doubt that he'll keep on at the same pace as he did at Newbury over a mile further over bigger fences.
 
Desert Orchid said:
It's not so much that Cloth Cap must win but I'd want to check if I have something I rate higher getting weight off him!

He should stay but there has to be a doubt that he'll keep on at the same pace as he did at Newbury over a mile further over bigger fences.
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So do they just let him go....a whole fence clear, gets into a good rhythm, Jockey gets a breather in....

Won't need to go hell to leather...

2Lb off bottom weight....

Everything below Agusta Gold is out the handicap....
 
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That's the utopian scenario.

Don't get me wrong. As someone who, in the past, has backed Crisp, Lord Gyllene, Mr Frisk, etc, I love these front-running types but everybody knows how Cloth Cap is going to run. The likes of Gigginstown only need to run a couple of non-stayers prominently and harry him at every fence to make him over-race. If that happens the ba's up on the slates.
 
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Official rating, GNR, (Difference), weight...

Santini 170 167 (-3)...11-10
Bristol de Mai 169 167 (-2)...11-10
Easysland 167 167 (0)...11-10
Presenting Percy 168 166 (-2)...11-09
Tiger Roll 168 166 (-2)...11-09
The Storyteller 162 165 (+3)...11-08
Chris's Dream 164 164 (0)...11-07
Battleoverdoyen 160 162 (+2)...11-08
Yala Enki 161 160 (-1)...11-03
Ballyoptic 158 158 (0)...11-01
Definitly Red 158 158 (0)...11-01
Lake View Lad 162 157 (-5)...11-00
Magic of Light 158 156 (-2)...10-13
Burrows Saint 156 156 (0)...10-13
Ajas 145 156 (+11)...10-13
Acapella Bourgeois 155 155 (0)...10-12
Aso 155 155 (0)...10-12
Mister Malarky 155 155 (0)...10-12
Talkischeap 155 155 (0)...10-12
Tout Est Permis 153 155 (+2)...10-12
Anibale Fly 152 155 (+3)...10-12
Bellshill 153 153 (0)...10-10
Beware The Bear 153 153 (0)...10-10
Kimberlite Candy 153 153 (0)...10-10
Pym 153 153 (0)...10-10
Al Roc 152 152 (0)...10-09
Any Second Now 151 152 (+1)...10-09
Balko des Flos 151 152 (1)...10-09
Alpha des Obeaux 145 152 (+7)...10-09
Ok Corral 153 151 (-2)...10-08
Champagne Classic 151 151 (0)...10-08
Brahma Bull 150 151 (+1)...10-08
Shattered Love 152 150 (-2)...10-07
Jett 150 150 (0)...10-07
Takingrisks 150 150 (0)...10-07
The Jam Man 150 150 (0)...10-07
Articulum 145 150 (+5)...10-07
Class Conti 149 149 (0)...10-06
Lord du Mesnil 149 149 (0)...10-06
Potters Corner 149 149 (0)...10-06
The Conditional 149 149 (0)...10-06
Milan Native 147 149 (+2)...10-06
Cloth Cap 148 148 (0)...10-05
Minellacelebration 148 148 (0)...10-05
Robin des Foret 148 148 (0)...10-05
Vieux Lion Rouge 148 148 (0)...10-05
Cabaret Queen 147 148 (+1)...10-05
Canelo 147 147 (0)...10-04
Glen Forsa 147 147 (0)...10-04
Give Me A Copper 146 147 (+1)...10-04
The Long Mile 145 147 (+2)...10-04
Agusta Gold 146 146 (0)...10-03
Farclas 146 146 (0)...10-03
Hogan's Height 146 146 (0)...10-03
Sub Lieutenant 146 146 (0)...10-03
Minella Times 140 146 (+6)...10-03
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All below this line will carry a minimum of 10-03 assuming one of the top weights stays put, irrespective of how many come out above them..

Ami Desbois 145 145 0
Blaklion 145 145 0
Double Shuffle 145 145 0
Gold Present 145 145 0
Keeper Hill 145 145 0
Moyhenna 145 145 0
Death Duty 144 144 0
Secret Reprieve 144 144 0
Some Neck 142 144 +2
Rocky's Treasure 143 143 0
Saturnas * 143 142 -1
Cap du Nord 142 142 0
Fagan 142 142 0
Golan Fortune 142 142 0
Jerrysback 142 142 0
Kauto Riko 142 142 0
Storm Control 142 142 0
Valtor 142 142 0
Deise Aba 142 142 0
Run Wild Fred 144 140 -4
Another Venture 140 140 0
Captain Drake 140 140 0
Crievehill 140 140 0
The Hollow Ginge 140 140 0
Le Breuil 140 139 -1
Fitzhenry 139 139 0
Flying Angel 139 139 0
Prime Venture 139 139 0
A Toi Phil 141 138 -3
Dounikos 140 138 -2
Roaring Bull 139 138 -1
Achille 138 138 0
Hold The Note 138 138 0
Plan of Attack 137 138 +1
Musical Slave 137 137 0
Soupy Soups 137 137 0
Treacysenniscorthy 137 137 0
Shantou Flyer 137 136 -1
Beau Bay 136 136 0
Hear No Evil 130 136 6
Monbeg Notorious 135 135 0
Saint Xavier 137 134 -3
Aforementioned 136 134 -2
Fingerontheswitch 132 132 0
One Style 129 132 +3
Bellow Mome 136 131 -5
 
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edgt said:
Jett a very interesting purchase by Waley-Cohens.
He has run very impressively more than once in top company and has a big race in him.
Sam rides Aintree as well as anyone and should suit the horse.
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Amateur jockeys are no longer permitted to ride in Britain after the BHA released a number of changes to the race programme.

British racing's governing body confirmed that hunter chases would be taking place this season, but only professional jockeys or conditionals will be allowed to ride.

The decisions have been taken by the racing industry's Covid-19 steering group which includes representatives from racecourses and horsemen.

Mr Sam Waley-Cohen
Licence
Amateur
Lowest riding weight in last 12 months
9-13


Needs the ban lifting first...
 
edgt said:
Jett a very interesting purchase by Waley-Cohens.
He has run very impressively more than once in top company and has a big race in him.
Sam rides Aintree as well as anyone and should suit the horse.
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Didn't realise the W-Cs had bought him. He was one that i made a written not of to double check. Potentially well-in.
 
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