Like to explain why EC1?
What absolute drivel. Are they really going to stand aside and not support either party? Leaving the goverment in limbo?
Have you had difficulty following events? Brown walked because they didnt really want a coalition anyway? Really makes sense that...
Labour is under threat now from the left within the party. the seamus milne tendency will see this as an opportunity to "reclaim their party" and i suspect the new leader may well be facing internal battles with the dim nutters on the far left that ruined their prospects throughout the eighties. This could especially come to light when the welcome and much needed cuts in the public sector non-jobs comes to pass
Clive
I thought a lot of what Martin posted was - superior - arrogant and rude tbh.
Dismissing people's views in the derogatory way he has in that post isn't going to encourage a "good post" from me obviously?
The truth is that Clegg has showed himself to to be a self server - i'll point out again..when the first set of discussions ended with the tories..at which point the announcement mentioned everything they had discussed..missing out electoral reform though..but a day later when tories called them back..it was just one carrot used - a promise of a referendum on electoral reform..demonstrating clearly the only thing Clegg was bothered about.
Why shouldn't Labour have had talks with them?..it was the right thing to do to show people that all avenues had been explored..it would be fair to imagine that when Clegg went into that meeting he didn't give a jot about anything bar electoral reform..and got short shrift.
The right thing to do as far as Clegg was concerned was to join neither party..his voters and grass roots don't support an alliance..and neither do the grass roots of tory party. They should have let the tories have a minority government..because teh one they have now will be a very short lived affair anyway.
These great statesmen have let their foot soldiers do all the legwork then sell them down the river..very statesmanlike.
A guy on our street has a lib dem board outside his house..he has put a line through and written ..I didn't vote Tory..that feeling will be reflected the next time we have an election. Clegg has looked after himself..but condemned his party to a bleak future.
Brown walked because he knows his party needs to elect a new leader quickly..he did the right thing..unlike the other two graspers for power. I would imagine there was great relief all round in the Labour party.
At the end of the day..lets see how good the Statesman twosome are..and how long it lasts.
by the way..i voted lib dem...even though our man was one of the higher expenses fiddlers ..so am no lover of labour..don't really feel strongly about any party..just giving my view as an independent observer over the last week
