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Trees / Neighbour

Songsheet

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Right - more info requested please!

I have a particularly unpleasant neighbour who has a vegetable garden that backs onto to a field I own. This field has a nice line of sycamore trees that provide a very good screen and there is a ditch that I own between these trees and his veg patch.

My neighbour has sent me a letter complaining that they are now too tall and 'gloomy' and that his fruit trees (particulary the Laxton Beauty it would appear) are suffering from a lack of light. His veg patch is across the lane from his house and in no way do the trees pose a threat to hip property.

His letter goes on to graciously permit me to let my gardener have access (after having secured prior permission from his as to an acceptable time) to assess the work and then carry it out........

This, incidentally, is also the neighbour that erected iron girders that border the lane accessing my farm, in an attempt to prevent the milk tanker getting to this farm when it was a dairy farm prior to us purchasing it. My predecessors had to arrange for another access to the farm to be made, as the tankers couldnt collect the milk....

And in 2005, when we had the barn fire, the self-same girders prevented access by Taunton's newly purchased all-singing, all dancing-fire truck to the scene.

So, fellow forumites, my question is, do I have to get my bush trimmed ( :D :D ) ? Or can I tell him to stuff his Laxton Beauty apple tree where the sun don't shine???
 
I thought that was the problem, its already where the sun dont shine??!!

Tell him to go f*ck off, the miserable ol bar steward....tell him when he starts playing ball with you, you might consider being neighbourly.

(Im in bad form,got soaked comin back from lunch to work)
 
Dont see that you have aproblem Julie - if theres anythinkg on his side he can cut it himself, but he has to give/offer you the pieces back (or its classsed as theiving i think) but Id be surpriesd if you are under any obligation to do anything about your trees for him!!

Of course you could alwqays say that youd love to cut them downm, but due to the positioning of the posts, a truck cant get in to take away the wood.......
 
Jules you may be his neighbour but you don't have to be neighbourly. Play his game.

Trudles is right about him cutting back what is on his side, as my neighbours have had a similar problem.
 
Originally posted by trudij@Jun 12 2007, 02:37 PM
if theres anythinkg on his side he can cut it himself, but he has to give/offer you the pieces back
My prat of a neighbour does that! we go up the garden to find little bundles of trimmed honeysuckle that he has thrown back over the fence shrug::
 
The following might help!

My neighbour's trees encroach over my boundary, can I cut them back?Your Common Law rights allow you to remove branches that cross over your boundary without the need to seek your neighbour's permission. Notifying your neighbour of your intentions is always advisable. However, you must not cross the boundary to do so. For example, leaning a ladder over the boundary to rest against the trunk of the tree could be classed as trespass. You should not dispose of the branches or any other waste material from the tree over your fence into your neighbour's garden, but first ask your neighbour if they wish to have the material returned to them. If they don't want it, it will be your responsibility to dispose of it. If a tree is protected by a Tree Preservation Order, or because it is located within a Conservation Area, the Common Law right is removed and you will need to seek formal permission from the Council before undertaking work to living parts of the tree.

My neighbour's trees are blocking my light, what can I do?Technically your neighbour only has a duty to ensure their trees are safe. There is currently no height restriction on trees. If you have concerns regarding a tree ask your neighbour how they intend to maintain it: you may be able to cut the overhanging branches back to the boundary. However, before either you or your neighbour undertakes works to any trees it is important to check the trees are not covered by a Tree Preservation Order, or located within a Conservation Area.
 
Gosh, maybe I do not want to live in your barns, you have a weird neighbour!

It's not like he did not know the trees were there when he built his veg patch, so I think as your trees existed long before he did it is kind of first come first served.

He can complain to the council, but as said on here, as long as the trees are safe they will take your side.

But, beware. Parents in law in Torquay had a neighbour who actually drilled a hole in a tree they did not like and put root killer in. Took awhile but said tree duly died. And was found to have a man made hole in it which was obviously done by neighbour but no one could prove it of course. Very sad stuff.

You could always let caravanners use your field - that might make him move! :ph34r:
 
You heard it here first..............

The Grand Annual Talking Horses Caravan Rally
To be held in Songsheets field next to the tree's

Please make sure you place your BBQ's etc as close to the offending neighbour as possible,

Entertainment in the barn every night until late, please bring your own food & drink as we are all so poor we can't afford to supply anyone else! :P

Please make sure you make as much noise as possible on returning to your van at 2am

We will be organising a traffic jam on the M3 & A303 on the way for added satisfaction :shy:
 
Originally posted by Aldaniti@Jun 12 2007, 03:42 PM
There is currently no height restriction on trees.
..awaits next Lib Dem manifesto.

(if it had set tree height tax I would have said Labour).
 
Thank you everyone - particularly Helen - very valuable info!

I am in the middle of some v complicated company problems right now, so Matey is right down my list of priorities. I do have his email address so I'll just send him one saying I am very busy at the moment but will get back to him a couple of weeks.

That will annoy him......
 
Just scuttle out to the veg patch at night and spray the bloody thing with a herbicide - Agent Orange, if any of the stuff's left, for the Laxton, and bang! The problem's gone! I wouldn't help this pig one bit. I'd point out that his deliberate obstruction of your access to your farm prevented the Fire Service from attending to a serious barn fire, that even now horseboxes have great trouble traversing it, and that in the interests of warm neighbourly relations, he can go feck himself. And that in the event you find any of your sycamores damaged, he can say goodbye to his kneecaps.

Seriously, why plant a veg patch where you know there are big trees growing? Not only is he an insufferably spiteful, petty-minded and pompous arse, but he's also incredibly stupid.

I love the caravan rally idea completely! :clap: :clap:
 
Yeah the non caravanners won't know what they are missing!

I've lined up PDJ, Ardross & Colin to do the Full Monty on the Saturday night :what:
 
leave your bush exactlyas it is!!

he messed your predecessors around, so now its come back to kick him in the balls.

my old teacher always used to say, what goes around comes around (in a strong lancashire accent)
 
I'd tell him to go whistle, Jules - but naturally with a big sickly sweet smile on your face that will just ***** him off enormously....
 
Originally posted by Aldaniti@Jun 12 2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah the non caravanners won't know what they are missing!

I've lined up PDJ, Ardross & Colin to do the Full Monty on the Saturday night :what:
I was goign to ask if I could come - but Im not so sure now...... :P
 
This is what I sent him:

"Thank you for your note.

I would ask that you do not ‘trim’ these trees in any way other than by removing any minor overhanging branches that you can reach from your property and, if you do make such trimmings, that you dispose of them in an acceptable manner by removing them to an environmental recycling facility. Under no circumstances are you to make such trimmings via access to my property and I do not give you permission to do so, as this would involve insurance implications. If you are requesting altering these trees in any other form than removing the lowest overhanging branches that can be reached without the use of either ladders or machinery, then that would mean a specialist being involved and, as these trees act as a privacy screen during the months they are in leaf between our properties, I would not be prepared to agree to any alterations that would impact on this "


I know, I should have told him to stuff it where his Laxton Beauty don't shine but hey, I'm just such a sort of touchy-feely, all's-right-in-my-world kinda gal...

NOT!
:angy:
 
Not far off being a little Katie Hopkins on this one, Songy! Can you imagine HER dealing with this?

"Dear .....,

Apart from hoping that a very large object will fall from the sky and crush you to an unimaginably agonizing death, or that you become enmeshed in your own threshing machine, NO. Do not touch my trees. Not one solitary leaf. Mess with these trees, put one of your nasty toes on an inch of my soil, and you will know pain the like of which has not been experienced by humanity since the days of crucifixion.

I do trust that clears up this little matter, and I'm glad to have been of help.

Yours, etc. "
 
I reckon you have him stumpedJules... with that reply! Ask him if he would mind moving his apple trees as they are stopping the sun reaching your trees and therefore stunting their growth........... norty
 
I have had a particulary trying day - one developer lost it and stormed out, resigning without notice (with us the past four years) and I had to hold the first disciplinary hearing in 18 years of running our company for a gross breach of employment contract by another long-serving employee. I am not happy. I got back to my office here from our head office where all this took place at 7.45pm, only to find this email from the neighour from hell

"Ref: You trimming your trees

I refer to your curiously aggressive reply to my hand-delivered note. It you as joint owners continue not to take action as politely requested, you have to look to the consequences. I leave you to guess what they will be.

If you had read my note carefully, you would see that it suggested that your employees, eg Ross, would be cutting the necessary, having first contacted us for access."

In the words of the incomparable Victor: "I do not beeeelieeeeve it...."

Professional advice from my best chum's husband - a Senior Partner in a well known legal firm - was to ignore the fecker but to inform my insurance company of this delightful exchange, just in case he decided to pretend he'd suffered some sort of damage from my vicious sycamore trees. This just about sums up the mental attitude of the UK today...

So I've done this, all before spending the rest of the evening typing up the minutes of the Disciplinary Hearing.

How I laughed.....
 
Best chuck this lot at your solicitor, Jules, because I suspect he'll be leppin' the ditch in the middle of the night with his bandsaw. How can you jointly own the trees if you own the ditch in front of them? You need a surveyor to measure the length of shadows from the trees to his vegetable patch, apart from the fact that he should (as has already quite rightly been pointed out) have thought about shadowing before he put the patch down, the fool.
 
I think you could consider that to be a direct personal threat Julie.

Are the trees not subject to a TPO?

Oh just hit with a restriction order :D
 

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