Worst Value Favourite At The Festival

Ballytrim

A good horse, just talking from a value point of view. Once raced, not sure what he beat, 4/1? Nahhh
 
Have to agree about Kauto Star,just can't warm to the horse at all.
Still has to do it on the track when it matters for me.

Also not sure about Mister Hight either,needs to jump better and didn't like his head carriage last time.
Can't see him beating Afsoun or the winner (u know the one in the Rooster Booster colours).

Paul Nicholls has said on his ATR website piece that Blue Business will win the National Hunt chase,can't see him beating Dunn Doire myself.

Don't like Our Ben much either,doesn't win often enough and has yet to prove conclusively that he stays the trip even though it looks like he is crying out for it.
 
Kauto Star aswell, very hard to back not knowing he will take to Prestbury park at such a short price.
 
I am simply amazed with the Our Ben affair.
Maybe Darkness is injured because if he is not, he will have Our Ben for breakfast.
 
When the money continues to come for a horse like Our Ben from a stable like Willie Mullins.....surely its as clear as crystal connections are delighted with him and expecting big things in a few weeks. Given their record in the race it's worth respecting.
 
Mister Hight, Darkness, Beef or Salmon, Sweet Wake and one more.... oh probably Kauto star... and Nick Dundee too.... Yes my money was sunk that as well
 
Originally posted by Irish Stamp@Feb 27 2006, 11:55 PM
Nick Dundee - was cantering all over a Gold Cup winner, one of the most underated horses of recent years.
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Macs Joy was cantering all over Brave Inca 1 out in his last and everybody knows what happened.
 
Yes everybody knows what happened.

But no one knows what would have happened if Nick Dundee had stood up. That's the frustrating part.
 
Originally posted by Galileo@Feb 27 2006, 08:48 PM
When the money continues to come for a horse like Our Ben from a stable like Willie Mullins.....surely its as clear as crystal connections are delighted with him and expecting big things in a few weeks. Given their record in the race it's worth respecting.
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If that was so, we'd have seen the plunge for Our Ben BEFORE he was tipped up by the Prophet Prisewise himself.

Though I would have thought The Listener, Church Island and Halcon Genelardais would have better chances than Our Ben. Not disgraced on quicker ground and have undulating course form. Not to mention consistant high level form and first class festival trainers. Darkness is pretty good as well.

I qive my vote to Our Ben in this thread.
 


But no one knows what would have happened if Nick Dundee had stood up. That's the frustrating part.
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believe me bobby if that fool on top had off kicked on instead of doing his normal showboating the beast would have won

worst value favorite

possibly kauto star

barracouda is priced up on performences that are becoming the distant past

the bookies have done well so far with poor value favorites in harchibald and rhinestone cowboy
 
If that was so, we'd have seen the plunge for Our Ben BEFORE he was tipped up by the Prophet Prisewise himself.
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I know two forum dwellers who have 20/1 about the horse, and have followed the horse down from that price to what he is now. Pricewise tipped the horse when he was a best price 7/1. I think he is a desperate price now.
 
I don't think it's too bad a price. It's hard to guage where the Irish form fits in with English horses, probably 2/1 against an Irish winner. Our Ben must be odds on to be the first Irish horse home.
 
Undoubtedly Kauto Star. For such an inexperienced horse who hasn't gone around Cheltenham and seems to prefer the soft he is a daft price. He is priced on potential, not what he has actually ahcieved.

Much as I like Racing Demon I think he is very short too considering he will want further and there are one or two 2 milers in there that should have a better turn of foot.

Mel, do you really think Our Ben is odds-on to be the first Irish horse home? You really think the Irish won't have a winner until the 2nd race on the Weds? The Irish are very short to win the Supreme Novices, and probably the Champion too, not to mention AE in the Arkle. I think they'll most probably have 2-3 races under their belt by the time the RSA is run.
 
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