Would You Choose Your Job?

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This is an excellent thread!

Simmo; Absolutely brilliant you should get a job in racing! :lol:

For me my job is great i get to go racing all around the country and have been abroad to France and Ireland too. And work 7am - 12.30 then 4pm - 6pm so for me is easy enough, the pay is shit but something different everyday makes it interesting.
 
Understand exactly what your saying fudge.

Glad to hear everything is going well for you, including the results!!! Did you find it hard settling in, I know your job in Loders probably didnt carry as much responsibility as your current job (correct?) wondering how your getting on with that....some thrive and enjoy the extra pressure.
 
D-O I'm genuinely surprised to learn that any secondary school finishes as early as 3pm.
They do here in the Bronx. Mon–Fri 3-pm.................. :P

My daughter teaches too and my son in law drives LGV they argue who has the most stressful job when they call in to see me...........I cant comment on teaching (but would not fancy it either) but I can on driving with some of these so called part time car drivers that we have to endure everyday of our lives a majority being senseless :blink: ....

When I started driving H G V 40ft ARTIC’S 38 tonne, (NO POWER STEERING EITHER) carrying steel all over the country, (the driver is responsible for keeping the load on as well, no containers then, and change your own wheels if having a puncture, and unload your load by hand as well) my hours were up to 15 per day... PRE TACHOGRAPH days and you had to daily break the law (and pay the fines) as this is what the employer insisted you do.......... :o

So don’t let anyone try and teach me something about stress? I been there done it and got plenty of T-shirts too............ :rolleyes:
 
If people are looking for a pissing contest about stress, then I'd venture there are several different types, some of which aren't comparable to others. What is it about being a teacher that is 'stressful'? Longish hours? There's adequate recuperation time, it seems. Not earning the same as an asset manager? But still enough to afford holidays, cars, a family, and a home. Ill-behaved classes? Isn't that one of the hazards of the job - if you're an Accident & Emergency paramedic, you run the chance of ill-behaved patients all day long or all night, some of them deranged and seriously dangerous.

Stress - the police, ambulancemen, late night bus and taxi drivers, night shift security guards, firemen, air/sea rescue, soldiers on patrol in Iraq and Afghanistan, bomb disposal officers, double agents, Press on the front lines, covert operations troops, farmers whose herds or flocks contract fatal viruses, fishermen, miners, high-rise steel erectors, being very poor, being unemployable due to the onset of illness or accident... yes, I can think of a few situations where stress levels of one sort or another are probably just a little higher than a teacher's!
 
Reminds me of when the late, great Keith Miller, cgreatest Australian all-rounder, fearless punter, lover of the ladies and Battle of Britain Spitfire pilot was being interviewed by Parkinson some years ago. Parky turned to the pressures on modern sportsmen and asked Miller what how he compared the stress they suffered with that of his sporting days. "Well, Mike" said Miller "When you have a Messerschmidt on your port wing, another on your starboard wing and yet another up your arse, that's stress. But I don't remember anything like that playing cricket..."
 
Originally posted by Honest Tom@May 6 2006, 08:02 PM
There was once an article in one of the tabloids about how a nurses pay had fallen over the years when compared to the likes of teachers, policemen and doctors. My wife (a nurse) took severe umbrage to a letter sent in by a teacher claiming that "at least nurses were dealing with people who wanted to get better" (insinuating that pupils didn't want to learn). As the wife said "I'd like to see her dealing with a demented, alcoholic, junkie" to which I replied "I know. Plasticine chucking bint". :lol:
Amen. Have teachers ever tried wiping an invalid's backside to get into their career profession and better themselves, ie. move from a Nursing Home to the Nurse Unit Manager? Have teachers ever tried working a double shift of 16 hours straight to cover for other nurses whom call in "sick" consistently? That is 16 hours of working through the night.

That is just a few of the bare minimum duties of a nurse on a daily basis, whom is underpaid far more than a teacher, for a job that is far more stressing. On top of seeing people die, threatening you with knives. Just the trials and tribulations of being a nurse. I have heard it all, my sister in law is one.

65 days is not enough time in leave? Um sorry Desert Orchid, but at 21, I worked 60 hour weeks, with no holiday for over 15 months, probably had 3 hours altogether in lunch breaks before I even had a holiday, all 3 days of it too.

Even now, I get only 20 days a year, and cannot take if I please. I have no health benefits, no car allowance, or whatever you were trying to state above that you think office workers receive. Reality is majority of us on this board don't get that.

I'd happily trade my job to be a teacher.
 
I don't really suffer from stress at work but have been told that I am a carrier.

....And further illustration of Hartigan's stressful lifestyle. I was sitting with him and his merry band at Punchestown, and casually asked if the following monday (May day) was a public holiday in the UK.

They looked at each other, fell silent - faces contorted - obviously struggling for an answer. Then one of them asked..

"I don't know. How do you tell the difference?"
 
Originally posted by Galileo@May 6 2006, 10:10 PM
Understand exactly what your saying fudge.

Glad to hear everything is going well for you, including the results!!! Did you find it hard settling in, I know your job in Loders probably didnt carry as much responsibility as your current job (correct?) wondering how your getting on with that....some thrive and enjoy the extra pressure.
Thanks, and yes it does carry loads more pressure for the same amount of money, and on a few occasions ive thought why dont i just go back to being a lad in a bigger yard on the same wage having an easy life just doing my 2 horses. But that is not what i want to do in life i would like to train myself one day so am having a good crack at being assistant. And yes with the steady flow of winners coming in it make the job very satisfying and worthwhile. :D
 
Originally posted by PDJ@May 7 2006, 09:30 AM
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Grand Armee, I have been threatened with a knife at my school twice.
Well moaning about the dinners always gets back to the dinnerladies! :lol:
 
Im with Kri - i think there are different types of "stress" in all walks of life - its how you cope with pressure that differs. I get more "stressed" when im tired, especially if im then put under pressure ( new years day 2005 is a case in point though at the extreme - i left home at 5am, got done for speeding on the way to Philips, we went to cheltenham with 6 horses, all in consecutive races, i had to prepare 4 of them, and hand them over to get them all up to the racecourse in plenty of time for their races.) As long as i get time to mentally prepare myself, I thrive under pressure - so much so that we came home with 4 best turned outs, and i didnt have one late horse. (at one point i had a spare 10 minutes, and spent it panicing that id forgotten something!)

I can remember giving my teachers a fair bit of grief - and can fully imagine a lot of them having trouble coping - but I dont believe ANYONE goes into a job with their eyes shut. Crap goes with any territory, and if you dont like the heat you dont sit on the barbeque. Hospital staff and all the emergency services are (to my mind) far more stresful professions to be in.

I also adhere to the same ethos as Kathy - I got to the stage where I hated being an EVN, so I left, taking a third paycut to go back to racing.I know it is easy for me - i was only 30 at the time,and I had Philips help ( he was more than happy to give me a glowing reference, it was just good fortune for me that the head girl broke her leg at the right time for me to step in and help them out) BUT there aer limited years most girls can do this job - and when i go, I will be (probably - unless i get myself with a partner) effectively homeless as my job is live in, and pennyless. Which will put mer back at home with mum and dad,and working in Tesco (or the ilk!) even temporarily,as there are a dearth of racehorse trainers in Poole.... ( or even Dorset now - despite Paul Keane moving nearby..)
 
Originally posted by Grand Armee@May 6 2006, 04:44 AM
Well I can happily admit that I am one of the few that actually does like their job. The pay is well above what most people my age earn, the people are awesome, the hours are minimal and its great once to be able to look at life in a positive manner, rather than negatively.
And you'd happily trade all that to be a teacher? I reckon I'll swap with you any time.

I once spent some time working for a distribution company. I worked 8-5 plus whatever o/t they needed me for. I had a guy standing over me all day making sure I was keeping to deadlines and the turnaround in staff was incredible because they couldn't handle it. I thought the job was a piece of cake because I didn't have to use my brain too much. Everything about it was routine, just done at speed.

I worked in a very busy bar - 4 deep and all shouting their orders at once. I could serve two and three people at a time throughout a 5½ hour shift with only a 10 minute break. I never found it stressful. Unsatisfying and unrewarding, but never stressful.

I felt more stress in one hour of teaching than I did in all my time in those jobs.

Maybe it's a question of how you define and/or handle stress but I challenge any of you to go into a class of 14yos intent on making your life a misery and come out the other end mentally unscathed.
 
Fair enough Mo, but could you hand on heart say that manual jobs in a factory line or serving behind a bar are truly stressful jobs? They're not really the greatest example you could have for proving that teaching is more stressful than everything else!! ;)
 
Yep, it's a pissing contest, all right! Fact is, there is often NO stress to some jobs, but there is PRESSURE, and many people confuse the two. Working under the pressure to meet a deadline, to meet a quota, to stay within a budget, to hire more staff before a certain date, or to get tax returns in on time - all pressure, but there really isn't any STRESS.

Now, try to do the same things but against the incompetence of others - people who miss THEIR deadlines so you miss yours, a quota that now won't be met because someone fell ill, the budget overruns because one person somewhere down the line 'forgot' to figure in a vital element for this year... that's when stress starts to begin.

I can see that teachers have pressure in their jobs, just as many other employees do. I know that some teachers have nice schools in lovely places, and have good, clean, middle-class pupils who want to do well, and want to get to Uni, and do have goals. Against that, there are ghastly kids and awful schools. However, neither of the two opposites is unlike any other form of organisation, whether it's schools, hospitals, laboratories, doctor's surgeries, factories, multinational corporations, etc. Some situations are much better than others, and if one is stressed - rather than just pressured - constantly in one section, and if changing it for the better doesn't or won't work, then leaving it (by resigning or transferring) will relieve the problem.

I'd suggest that if enough 'stressed' teachers formed a pressure group and struck frequently, demanding effective controls in their rotten schools, the result wouldn't be thousands of awful children left untaught, but a government which would be forced to reconsider some of its more flabby and ridiculous 'guidelines' and a system that would have to buck up, and properly support its staff.
 
Once again another thread turns to piss . I started this thread because I wanted opinions on what rewards you've actually got from work . Instead we got a pissing contest with the teachers thinking they were hard done by and frankly 65 days hols you're having a laugh to complain about pressure !! Now that I have been drawn into this arguement lets compare pressures . Try being tied to a headset for 8hrs a day without permission to move from your seat unless you're on a verified break . Do teachers have to finish their classes at precisely 10 mins on the hr and after their 10 min break be ready to put chalk to blackboard at 20 past the hour . We can all to the I'm harder off than you thing and although this wasn't the purpose of the thread I really think you should think twice before sounding off about conditions. I have friends who are teachers and I sympathise with their workload but they are the first to admit that there is more than a passing resemblence to reality in the eponymously named popular CH4 documentary series .
 
Originally posted by solerina@May 9 2006, 09:08 PM
Do teachers have to finish their classes at precisely 10 mins on the hr and after their 10 min break be ready to put chalk to blackboard at 20 past the hour .
Actually, yes, although we do get a notional 15 mins for break - big wowee <_<

If we're not back in class before the kids arrive - and we get a 3-minute warning bell to make sure we're heading for our rooms in time for them arriving, thereby ensuring that the break is less than 15 mins less again the time it takes to make sure the place is ready for the next lesson so dock off another 5 minutes - we can/will be disciplined.

The TV prog bore no ressemblance to how schools in Scotland operate.
 
No offence Desert Orchid but nothing to do with my employer is notional . No room for margin . If I am not on the phone 95% of my working day then my bonus is docked . The closer I get too 100 % I get an extra £30 in my quarterly bonus . I have a 10min a 15 min and a 30 min break and I am expected to be answering calls continuously apart from in this time . I can have a really nice chap who want's some figures to convert to part repayment or lilke I had today I can have a witch who failed security wanting to report every sonofabitch who she ever dealt with and I can take those calls at 3 seconds apart . Unless you have done call centre work it is very hard to sympathise with those that do but I don't get paid big bucks . I've got 23 holidays and it's a thankless job which teaching is'nt. No contest
 
We do 48 hr weeks in our call centre (usually split over 4 12 hr shifts).
We are required to be logged in for at least 80% of our shifts so have approximately 2hrs of breaks.
We receive a weekly bonus if all telephonists are logged in for the required time and have a call rate of 25 per hr or above (as well as an attendance bonus once every three months).
We only get 20 holidays but the three days off a week makes up for that somewhat.
At this time of year it gets quite stressful on the phones as they never stop ringing and you can take anything up to 40 calls per hr.It can get a little monotonous.
Where money is involved there are plenty of nasty customers who u have to take crap off,the only consolation is we aren't face to face with them like others are.
Fortunately the staff are great and we have a laugh.
We have all the sport on the screens in front of us so in between calls or on our breaks we can watch a bit of the action if we like.
 
Originally posted by PDJ@May 7 2006, 09:30 AM
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Grand Armee, I have been threatened with a knife at my school twice.
I've actually had a knife pulled on me . Congratulations for winning the pissing comp . At present I am dehabilitated . I got beat up last Sat night and should have gone to the hospital but I hate the place . I have a`black eye and it's good that purple is in this week in terms of eyeshadow . Aside from that my head is swollen and I can't sleep because it's uncomfortable I'm covered in bruises but i'd just be happy if the ones on my head reduced . It's really swollen and I'm a bit worried that they might have done more harm .But hey where family are concerned everything in forgiven .
I got chunks taken out of me by my brother who is a violent alcohoholic .My mother made me not report it though it took some Christian Dior expertise not to show the bruises . Black eye and I still can't open my jaw. Some would say that's a good thing
. It's shit when when you can only see out of one eye and hear out of one ear
 
That's a shoite situation, Solerina. You owe it to your brother to know the wrong he's done by reporting him to the police, and for god's sake get your head checked out. Your brother's only going to go on and on without any sort of consequence for his actions, and I'm amazed that your mother thinks you shouldn't get yourself seen to medically. You might be carrying concussion, or a fracture, who knows - and being an alcoholic is just a pathetic excuse to try and justify disgusting behaviour. Brothers are supposed to be protective of their sisters, not beat them up. Shame on him.

What will your mother do if he manages to go a bit further next time - if he won't control his drunken behaviour, there's nothing to say he won't bash your head on a wall and kill you, is there?
 
I even heard him bragging to his mates about how he "slapped my chops " Totally disgusting but my mum won't throw him out cos he's in a bad alcoholic way . I need to getr out of this house now and never go back. My face and head are still swollen and painfull . I can't lie down because of that so I've got about 2hrs sleep these last 3 nights . If I leave this house I leave my mum alone with him and he is the epitome of "Poor me poor me pour me another drink" psychology
 
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