2 Mile Chasers 21/22

So, as part of the racing program review, a cross industry group are considering converting a number of graded races into handicaps and the Clarence House is one of them.

An utterly genius idea, they should try and get a bookmaker such as Victor Chandler to sponsor it :rolleyes:
 
So, as part of the racing program review, a cross industry group are considering converting a number of graded races into handicaps and the Clarence House is one of them.

An utterly genius idea, they should try and get a bookmaker such as Victor Chandler to sponsor it :rolleyes:

Is this for real, Lee?
 
One of the funniest quips I saw last year was that Willlie Mulling was popularising the drive towards turning graded races into handicaps by putting Patrick onboard Chacun at Sandown
 
Is this for real, Lee?

See last two paragraphs Grass



Leading owner John Dance has argued British racing remains too fixated on the Cheltenham Festival after plans were revealed to reshape the jumps programme to help Britain compete with Ireland.

A cross-industry group, chaired by Ruth Quinn, came to a number of conclusions to help revive British jump racing after its trainers won only five races at last season's festival, compared to Ireland's 23.

Its conclusions were released on Thursday and they included the introduction of more handicaps in place of Graded races, more prize-money and fewer options for the best horses to avoid one another.

Ruth Quinn: our blueprint for British jump racing to leave behind the Cheltenham drubbing (Members' Club)

Dance, who owns top novice chaser Bravemansgame, believes one solution to prevent small fields in Graded races could be to protect the handicap mark of horses running in races off level weights.

Dance, appearing on the Racing Post's 'What A Shout' on Friday, said: "Are we too focused on the Cheltenham Festival in the UK?

"As soon as Bravemansgame won over hurdles, there was talk about what race he would run in at Cheltenham. There are a lot of targets we should be desiring to win in the interim. Then if we're still going at the festival, its a bonus. We're utterly transfixed on Cheltenham."

On small field sizes in Graded races, Dance added: "Unless you've got a horse who is right at the top level, I think some trainers are reluctant to enter their horses in Graded races for fear they're going to blow their handicap mark by finishing closer than expected.

"That is one thing that could be changed. They could decide that a horse's mark can't be changed by the result of a race off level weights, which might encourage people to chance their arm."

Dance, who also singled out prize-money as a reason why owners might prefer to send their best horses to Ireland, said he would not be set against running some of his top talent in major handicaps.

"Look at the examples of Denman and Desert Orchid," said Dance. "Their reputations were enhanced because they won big handicaps carrying monster weights. If you're confident in your horse then its not the worst idea in the world – winning can add to their legacy."

The Quality Jump Racing Review Group would like to see some weight-for-age races be turned into valuable, competitive handicaps and Ascot's Clarence House Chase, which was previously the Victor Chandler Handicap Chase, was mooted as a potential contender.

Nick Smith, Ascot's director of racing and public affairs, said on Friday: "The Clarence House Chase is one of many potentially high-profile Pattern related options under discussion across the wider season and no decisions have been made."
 
Good God. Are racing's overlords about to do something sensible?

Keep the smelling-salts on standby.
 
A reduction in the amount of graded races would help. Too many options for certain horses to dodge each other.
 
There will be afair bit of excitement on Sautuday as Shishkin goes through his paces before Nicky decides on whether to send him for the Clarence House or not.

Readingthrough the lines he's till raging about the Tingle Creek nonsense I just hope he doesn't just run Shishkin to prove a point.

To be honest I don't know why he bothers with what punters think....PN would just tell the GFU and tell them nothing.

However we should know by Tuesday how he has come through his gallop and how he has scoped if they feel the need.

If he's right I think he should go and scare off Energugene from running in the QMCC by giving him a good thumping then he can hack round and pick up the big one.:D
 
I don't see Energumene coming over. It was a game of chicken to see if Shiskin would go to Game Spirit. It didn't work. Energumene will go to Leopardstown.
 
Really guys? Conspiracy theories at your age:lol:

If Shishkin was going to run he was always going to be odds on so the betting is no indication on whether Energugene turns up or not.

WPM dis say his plan was to visit the UK more this season than in the past so lets wait and see. No sense in guessing.

With Jonbon going to Haydock on the same day unless it is knee deep in mud it's going to be an interesting weekend that will either solidify the markets or turn them upside down

I am having my fingers crossed that I can get Evens the pair on Saturday but have no intentions of backing one wothout the other and things can change very quickly in this game.
 
Waiting till Cheltenham. Energumene taking a walk on the machine.

not sure his betfair odds lean much either way, he goes off about 9/4ish if running and is being matched around the 11/4 mark now. so definitely some uncertainty but nothing clear yet.
 
Relax guys Any danger of Energumene not running would Shishkin be 8/11.......he'd be more like 1/5

I hope he doesn't come over as I have had avery big bet on the double Shishkin with todays winner Bob Ollinger.
 
One should note Nicky's nose is still out of joint with the Tingle Creek Shishkin afair...Trust me that is a big part of why he is going to take on Energumene.

It's really out of Charchter when he could easily just have waited and given the horse an easy race on the other 2 miler.

There's been some money for him tonight and he's gone 1.62 while Energumene has drifted to 3/1
but If you stuck a few hundred pounds on Shishkin right now he'd be 1.37 in a flash and 200 punds would make Energumene a 6/4 shot
.as there's no real money around for either horse at the moment.
 
The owners of Amoola Gold must be delighted as they'll pick up at least 3k
and have a nice day out.

On his 3 previous visits to Ascot he's picked up 50k in win and place money
without ever being strongly fancied
 
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Neither trainers going to blink here. Odds on it happens i reckon now.

Hendo will be seething :lol:
 
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Neither trainers going to blink here. Odds on it happens i reckon now.

Hendo will be seething :lol:

Yes Paul Townend jocked up for one at Lingfield on Friday


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