Ante-Post - Flat 2017

Briardale was the one I've been keeping an eye on. For trainer James Bethell. There was 25/1 available last week. That may shorten. Euros pick, Sixties Groove, shortening again today's into around 8-1 now.
 
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I was worried Sixties Groove wasn't gonna get in but it looks comfortable now.

Has there ever been a better July Cup? I doubt it - and I'm taking Caravaggio on. The July's standard time is around 1.8s faster than Ascot's and I think that's reason enough given
his odds and the stacked nature of the race. I took 8s about Harry Angel at the end of last week (also have him in a double with Bottaash from the weekend) and have also backed Limato at 6s. The case for the Cox colt is straightforward enough and with Limato I'm hoping he will have improved from the Jubilee where he was badly drawn.

The other horse that caught my eye for the July meeting was Cardsharp in the July Stakes. He ran a find race in the Norfolk from the wrong side of the track and 12s seems really big.

My Bunbury Cup fancy has been taken out but should run in the International on KG day instead.
 
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Euronymous said:
My Bunbury Cup fancy has been taken out but should run in the International on KG day instead.
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Kevin Ryan is the trainer to watch in the Bunbury Cup. He has a decent hand to play with the anti-post favourite Flaming Spear, and a lively outsider in Big Time, who's price keeps shortening up, from the 40's it was a few days ago. I'm considering Big Time for an each way bet.
 
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John Smith's - I took 40/1 Tumbaga this morning. Not sure if it will run but ran really well at Ascot despite sweating up ridiculously beforehand. If it does end up running I can't see it being that kind of price on the day. I haven't actually done the race yet. This is just my gut at work.
 
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I was worried Sixties Groove wasn't gonna get in but it looks comfortable now.

Has there ever been a better July Cup? I doubt it - and I'm taking Caravaggio on. The July's standard time is around 1.8s faster than Ascot's and I think that's reason enough given
his odds and the stacked nature of the race. I took 8s about Harry Angel at the end of last week (also have him in a double with Bottaash from the weekend) and have also backed Limato at 6s. The case for the Cox colt is straightforward enough and with Limato I'm hoping he will have improved from the Jubilee where he was badly drawn.

The other horse that caught my eye for the July meeting was Cardsharp in the July Stakes. He ran a find race in the Norfolk from the wrong side of the track and 12s seems really big.

My Bunbury Cup fancy has been taken out but should run in the International on KG day instead.
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Great shout with Cardsharp' Euro:cool:
 
Will need to watch again, but first impressions were that Wings of Desire wasnt given a hard race then. Ill let dust settle and re-watch but the 16s for the King George is tempting.
 
Looking ahead to Goodwood I've backed Polybius in the Stewards Cup at 16s. He ran a monster race behind Danzeno on Staurday where he lost a length out of the stalls and was impeded at one point. An easy 6f will really suit him.

I'm mulling over Dai Harraild in the Cup. He shouldn't stay on pedigree but was strong in the finish over 1m6 at York in May in his only run over more than a mile and a half and I like the different form stream he brings to the race. Big Orange is tough as old boots so it would be an each way bet.
 
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I've also taken 5s about Churchill for the Sussex. I'm guessing the lads will want to restore their colt's reputation and what better way than beating Ribchester at Goodwood. I always favour 3yos in this race as imo the WFA is two or three pounds too generous. It's not their style to run Winter in this so if he's right I expect him to show up. Barney Roy I don't see as a likely contender given Ribchester's presence but even if he did show up I think he needs a stiller mile or even 10f.
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RP story confirming Churchill-Ribchester and intended clash at Goodwood.
 
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The race that happened at York on June 17th is a strong piece of form for next weeks Gigaset.

Above The Rest has won the Bunbury, Viscount Barfield won a listed event at Chester next time..

That's not forgetting Mutawathea rated 101 who is one hell of a good maiden having never actually got his head in front!

He was second in that York race, but twice the price of Viscount Barfield for the Gigaset at Ascot.

Being curious, If you had to pick one those three, what would it be and why?

Above The Rest, Viscount Barfield or Mutawathea?
 
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With a mixed weather forecast I think it's worth having a go at taking Highland Reel on next Saturday. Enable I doubt runs, Idaho is too tight and Ulysees confuses me a bit. I could dismiss him as a 10f animal but he should relish 12f on pedigree - on balance his poorish run in the POW relative to his Eclipse win is enough to put me off and so I've taken a flyer on Jack Hobbs. He was a lot poorer than Stoute's horse in June but 10f on quick ground is far from his optimum. A bit of cut over 12f is what he needs and he has two high class efforts over the last year or so to suggest he is good enough if back to his best. I don't really bother with Dubai form so I'm sort of hanging my hat on his excellent effort in the Champion Stakes last October where he stayed on really well from a poor position behind Almanzor and Found. 13/2 is fair and the race will cut up.
 
I wouldn't be 100% certain that Highland Reel will turn up-surely it makes more sense for them to try and get a Group 1 into Idaho.
 
Fair play, Outsider. Good luck. Mutawathea a notable absentee at the declaration stage today.
 
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The race that happened at York on June 17th is a strong piece of form for next weeks Gigaset.
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Don't forget the horse that was sixth this day, trained by David Barron, called Twin Appeal has been entered up for a race on Friday night and Saturday afternoon at York and Newcastle. This is the strongest tracker in my tracker list. I'll be hammering him in with a cricket bat and a 12 inch nail when and wherever he runs. :)
 
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Don't forget the horse that was sixth this day, trained by David Barron, called Twin Appeal has been entered up for a race on Friday night and Saturday afternoon at Newcastle. This is the strongest tracker in my tracker list and I'll be hammering him in when he runs with a cricket bat and a 12 inch nail. :)
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I might even go to Gosforth Park Saturday to watch if declared!
 
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I took 10/1 September for next year's Oaks the other night. If it wins something like the Fillies' Mile it will be half those odds. Anyway, just seems a good price even this far out but this is a 2017 thread so...

I'm off on holiday later this week so will miss Saturday and the first couple of days of Goodwood.

However, I've crunched some numbers and I think when people realise that in the Gigaset on Saturday Viscount Barfield is 10lbs well in (he went up 13lbs for Chester but only has a 3lb penalty) the 10/1 will disappear. It was 14s last night but I held off in wait for today's decs.

In the big mile hcap at Goodwood I've stuck with Master The World (20/1). He was just denied by the good thing Franklin D last year despite having little luck in running and looks a year-long plot, showing his best form of the season the other day.

I've also backed the double.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I took 10/1 September for next year's Oaks the other night. If it wins something like the Fillies' Mile it will be half those odds. Anyway, just seems a good price even this far out but this is a 2017 thread so...

I'm off on holiday later this week so will miss Saturday and the first couple of days of Goodwood.

However, I've crunched some numbers and I think when people realise that in the Gigaset on Saturday Viscount Barfield is 10lbs well in (he went up 13lbs for Chester but only has a 3lb penalty) the 10/1 will disappear. It was 14s last night but I held off in wait for today's decs.

In the big mile hcap at Goodwood I've stuck with Master The World (20/1). He was just denied by the good thing Franklin D last year despite having little luck in running and looks a year-long plot, showing his best form of the season the other day.

I've also backed the double.
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I took 25s September for the oaks.im only a small gambler.i just need to live that long.lol
 
Barely qualifies as ante post, especially as it's now NRNB but I felt compelled to take the 20s e/w about Benbatl after today's final decs.

It's hard to see him beating Enable but I don't think the older horses are up to much and he'll love the ground, unlike the Ballydoyle pair.

Edit: and immediately cashed out and re-staked with Laddies at 25s :o
 
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