Ante-Post Punting Plans/Propositions Thread.

December Gold Cup obv really tough, can't see where the value is. If Destroytheeviddence runs in the novices race at 1240 I'd back him.
 
December Gold Cup - I've taken Guard Your Dreams at 25/1. I've no idea if the intention is to run but it is lobbed in on its best hurdles form. It won the International Hurdle here when rated in the mid 140s so should have gone on to be a mid-150s chaser and gets in here off 136 on only its fourth run over fences and a first-season novice.
 
Kitzbuhel made a nice debut at Punchestown today, putting the 146 rated Colonel Mustard firmly in his place.
Immediately thought County Hurdle, but no ante post quote at present.
 
Euronymous said:
December Gold Cup obv really tough, can't see where the value is. If Destroytheeviddence runs in the novices race at 1240 I'd back him.
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I had a similar thought re December gold cup if the first 5 in the betting put in a clear round you'd probably be able to throw a blanket over them at the line. You can make half decent cases for a few outside of the main quintet but nothing I'd like to swing a bat at.
 
Desijo said:
Does anyone know if they are planning to rerun the Becher chase postponed from Saturday?
Thanks in advance.
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I wondered the same but seen as a fair few of the runners that we're engaged for it are running elsewhere this weekend it appears not.
 
Marb said:
I'm probably barking up the wrong tree again, but Gemirande could be an interesting longshot if he ran on Saturday.

He started off in handicao chases slowly slowly, getting beat at short odds, then his form picked up, when winning a couple of decent handicap chases. His overall profile is generally progressive year on year, although I've no idea what happend last season, as he didn't even start off until early March 2024, running a galllant fifth in the Grand Annual, and only had three runs in total last season, starting off in March.

He's lots to find on official ratings of course and must need several horses to drop out to get a run.

The hope would be he's summered well and has some extra improvement to show. I do think he's nicely handicapped off 128, but I suppose this would be a tough starting point for him this season against higher rated opponents.

Were he to run, that would be a swifter start to his season than in 2023/2024.when he only start in March. He's generally 33/1 but there is 50s in a place or two.

I think I'll wait nearer the time for the best each way terms.
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See what the handicapper does and where he goes next.
 
Desert Orchid said:
December Gold Cup - I've taken Guard Your Dreams at 25/1. I've no idea if the intention is to run but it is lobbed in on its best hurdles form. It won the International Hurdle here when rated in the mid 140s so should have gone on to be a mid-150s chaser and gets in here off 136 on only its fourth run over fences and a first-season novice.
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Ran and jumped well. Probably just not as good as it once was but there you go. I don't think I got four places ante-post though.
 
Ladbroke Hcap hurdle Ascot Saturday.
Tritonic is the one who leaps out at 40/1. Won this race off 141, 135 on Saturday.
Hoping for a drying week. He's still only a 7yo.
 
I'm looking at Doctor Ken in the Silver Cup Chase at Ascot on Saturday.

He was staying on well over 2M4F last time, when giving lumps of weight away and they pulled clear of the third.

Yes, there will be several others with better proven form, but I reckon Olly Murphy can bring one along well enough to suggest this fella can be competative, albeit at the lower end of the handicap.

It takes some doing in this day and age, but this fella could be very progressive. His form points that way.
 
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Long Walk:
5/2 Strong Leader
7/2 The Wallpark
6/1 Hiddenvalley Lake
7/1 Crambo and Kateira
10s Bar

We could have a Protektorat/Huntingdon scenario again here. Strong Leader was beaten fto at Ascot last year and he did not appear to enjoy the track, the trainer even suggested that. Not sure where to go though for a bet - HVL and/or Crambo maybe but neither have had a run yet.
 
I'm having a breather now, (that's probably code for a few beers) until New Years Day.

I had a look at Cheltenham on New Years Day.

I'm hoping for more luck then, than I've had the last few days. Still, the racings been decent, so can't complain.

What do you make of Lucky Place in the Rekheel, Euro? You fancied him the last day, just wondering if you fancy him again.

Thunder Rock just ran to bad to be true last time. He can do a lot better than that. It would be a stab in the dark, but I've thought for a while he was quite good on a going day. If he's still double-digit prices after final declarations I might go in.

I'm also interested in the Christian Williams horse, Deep Cave in the handicap hurdle. He's a french recruit who ran well last time in fifth and now surely bound to improve again. Only several firms quoting the race, but their 25/1 looks way too big if he's declared. I'll wait until final declarations.
 
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Marb said:
What do you make of Lucky Place in the Rekheel, Euro? You fancied him the last day, just wondering if you fancy him again.
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Tough task conceding the weight to the mares, Golden Ace is 6lb better off for a 2 length beating last time and if Mullins runs his she'll be getting nearly a stone.
 
Jonjo had a couple of nice winners yesterday, so An Tallier is of interest in the 3m handicap hurdle on New years day. Cheltenham 2.40.
Ran well at the festival last year. 9lb lower than that run. 25/1. No jockey booking yet.
Keeping an eye on this.
 
Marb said:
Keep an eye on the weather aswell.
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50-60MPH winds due for race time on Wednesday.

I certainly wouldn't be backing anything ante post. The meeting could be in jeopardy if the forecast is accurate.

Hopefully it will not be as bad as predicted, as is often the case.
 
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