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Ascot - Champions Day

Creative Force looks the bet in the sprint. Won it last year on similar ground, and ran a blinder in the Jubilee on ground that went against him.
 
I’ve gone for

Eldar Eldarov
Kinross
The Revenant
Sweet Lady (Can’t see why she’s the price she is relative to others)
Orbaan & Sweet Believer
 
Coltrane would be an apt winner for the day that's in it.

I've a trixie

Eldarov
Kinross
Eternal Pearl.

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Coltrane to win the 1.25 in a tribute to the late great Robbie


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No bet in the Long Distance

I've gone with Rohaan in the Sprint. He won the Bencough fairly comfortable and I think the key to this horse is for his jockey to leave it as late as possible, Hollie went too soon at Newbury in the Hackwood. He loves this track and is over 7 on the machine which is just too big.

Eshaada I've got ap in the Mares which was a mistake as she's bigger now. Fillies races have been death to me all year so this bet was a bit ill thought out. We'll she how she goes but I've not much confidence. Emily Upjohn at 4s isn't terrible as I can't have Sea La Rosa (surely an afterthought after Longchamp) and Eternal Pearl (Appleby can't give the good carrots to fillies). I've put the Gosden filly in a double with Astro King in the last.

No bet in the QEII

The ground has come right for Bay Bridge and whilst the 10s I got a while back for this in the hope that Baaeed would be Arc bound hasn't worked out I still like him in the w/o market and have done the sfc at a little under 3/1.
 
Euronymous said:
No bet in the Long Distance
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Same. I am follower of Quickthorn and I'd like to see him run his best race today. Interested to see how Trawlerman gets on aswell. Coltrane would be a popular winner with a name like that.

If the real Trueshan turns up it goes without saying he is the one to beat. Then you have the St Leger winner and the Irish Cesarewitch winner.

I'll stay out of this and happy to watch.
 
1.25 - At 2/1 I now think Trueshan is backable with a small win saver on Quickthorn in case I was right about him before.

2.00 - I've taken 9/2 Creative Force but there's no way Naval Crown should be 16/1 so I've taken that as well.

4.40 - The likes of Tacarib Bay (I'm sure it was 33/1 on Monday), Symbolize and Blue For You, which I mentioned earlier in the week are now all too short for my liking - certainly for me to back them all - so I've left them alone. I've taken Montatham, though, at 18/1. First time up for the season with Crowley up in a race of this value? I suspect they've got him back to his old form and have kept him back for this on 'Baaeed Day'. At least it's a nice wee thought if I'm wrong :)
 
Desert Orchid said:
2.40 - ... and Emily Upjohn (7/2) really only has to reproduce her best form to win. She was only 3/1 for the King George and it’s hard to imagine any of the rest of this field being less than 20/1 for that race.
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That's more like it. 9/2 this morning was huge.
 
Perhaps the ground didn't help but that the best race he has run in since he won the Queen Elizabeth II

Between then and now he's beaten nothing as Mishriff hasn't been himself all year.
 
Well done Euro.

Sums up this flat season really.

Different horses for different days.

The only top class horse that has kept her form all year has been Alpinista.

Everything else has disappointed and got beat at some stage.

Apart from Desert Crown who has been off for a while.
 
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Tanlic said:
Perhaps the ground didn't help but that the best race he has run in since he won the Queen Elizabeth II

Between then and now he's beaten nothing as Mishriff hasn't been himself all year.
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Was referring to Bay Bridge. Owed me!
 
Marb said:
Well done Euro.

Sums up this flat season really.

Different horses for different days.

The only top class horse that has kept her form all year has been Alpinista.

Everything else has disappointed and got beat at some stage.

Apart from Desert Crown who has been off for a while.
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Oh not forgetting Kyprios.
 
I've benefitted from some of these big O'Meara winners through the years but I'm not sure there was anything in Shelir's form to suggest that was in the offing.

I have to say, I think the trainer needs investigating. In the last half-furlong in these races his horses are finding an unusual amount.
 
Tanlic said:
Perhaps the ground didn't help but that the best race he has run in since he won the Queen Elizabeth II

Between then and now he's beaten nothing as Mishriff hasn't been himself all year.
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Mishriff was near the top of his game at Sandown and York. Bad ride in the former, ran into a mid 130s beast in the latter.

The thing about being around that level (135/136) is you haven't got as much of a buffa. Frankel had a stone on his rivals in the same race so he could run 8/9lbs below form and still win.

That's why all these Aussie horses run up sequences over different distances, if they're 126 beasts they are running against 110-115 animals and so can have various performance levels and still win. Over here you haven't got that luxury - there are more horses in the upper middle area of the pyramid.
 
Just run it all through again.

Hollie picked up 3 day and 2 day ban for two lots of careless riding causing interference - looked anything but “careless” to me. Tough cookie is Hollie and so is Trueshan.

Couple of nice rides from Frankie then a disaster getting Inspiral started. Really loved seeing Emily Upjohn win so well and on the other side of the mirror, hated seeing Baaeed beaten.

80/1 Shelir :rolleyes: owes me money that one and still does!
 
Desert Orchid said:
I've benefitted from some of these big O'Meara winners through the years but I'm not sure there was anything in Shelir's form to suggest that was in the offing.

I have to say, I think the trainer needs investigating. In the last half-furlong in these races his horses are finding an unusual amount.
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Shelir's stated targets in mid July were the Goodwood Mile and the Clipper Logistics (straight from O'Meara's mouth). So basically he told us he thought Shelir was good enough to mix it in high quality handicap company. Was only beat 2 lengths in the Goodwood. Has traditionally been a prominent racer, most times when he hit softish ground ran well against some big enough names.

I think they worked out that holding him up was the ideal tactic during the win at Ripon (good ground but looked like he just beat up on inferior opponents) which was why JW took a pull at the start today.

It's real easy in hindsight, but actually you could argue the writing was faintly on the wall. Personally, I thought Rhoscolyn was the one today. You live and learn!

Next season the call may be to look for a string of prominent-run losses and try to second guess (or watch in-running) for the hold-up.
 
I had some nice juicy prices today on O'Mearas a/O'Mearas p and like you Chaumi I thought Rhoscolyn was the one along with blue for you.
I followed Shelir last season and wondered why they didnt run him before july.
I really fancied it last time when Escobar won.
As DO says there was nothing in its form to say he could win this.i went back through it and couldnt recommend it today.Aftertiming
Simmo but I had a £1 win at 110 on the machine.but still cant believe how easy it won.
 
I often put my 3 pence ew on the complete outsider and I did put it on Shelir today. It makes up for my two Raising Sands disasters recently and at least made me realise that you win some you lose some. I missed a Phil Kirby 50/1 winner the other day and a Sheena West 80/1 3rd and I back both trainers blind so the God of Racing owed me one today. Plus there was DO’s tip, too.
 

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