Barney Curley

Basic economics works on the basis of market principles Stan - Supply and demand.

They go out of the window when people collude and subsequently manipulate the markets. The greatest trick the bookies ever pulled was making it legitimate.

People like Curely are just an excuse, not a reason.
 
Well it's basic business sense, it's not just Curley but all winning long-term punters make other punters suffer.
 
Gamla Stan said:
Well if Bookies are losing money to folk like Curley, they have to make it up elsewhere hence why all the things you are bemoaning are a consequence of gambles like Curley's.
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The name of the game is bookmaking -are they not prepared to lose sometimes.
 
From Racing Post:

"However, the vast majority of the 200 individuals employed to place the bets were foreign nationals, as the organisers sought to minimise the risk of information being leaked, and some could not read the instructions, while others tried to place the bet after the race had concluded."
 
The more I read the more amateurish it sounds.Too many people in the know which explains why the morning price went-they didn't maximize their return which is what it's all about.
 
Care to explain the logistics of executing a Profesional gamble ?

When you have the proverbial 'good ting' how do you get the money on to maximise your winnings ? it's difficult to find a lot of people who can be trusted to keep their mouths shut and place a bet at the right time. if you lessen the no. of bodys involved you won't get the same price. How much is the average high street bookie prepared to lay to lose without alarm bells going off.
 
Sheikh said:
Care to explain the logistics of executing a Profesional gamble ?

When you have the proverbial 'good ting' how do you get the money on to maximise your winnings ? it's difficult to find a lot of people who can be trusted to keep their mouths shut and place a bet at the right time. if you lessen the no. of bodys involved you won't get the same price. How much is the average high street bookie prepared to lay to lose without alarm bells going off.
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I would have definite ideas about how it should be done and the fact that it was an evening meeting during the summer should have been in their favour.if this was my coup I would be embarrassed by the way it was carried out.
 
I have an old excel spreadsheet detailing every bookies in a 7 mile radius and how long it would take to visit all of them and the best sequence to hit them in.
 
LUKE said:
I have an old excel spreadsheet detailing every bookies in a 7 mile radius and how long it would take to visit all of them and the best sequence to hit them in.
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Now all we need is a winner. :D

The fact that the price collapsed during the day (14's into 7's) suggested he wasn't exactly running a tight ship.
 
No Dunboyne Express then I take it? I think whichever of the O'Brien duo from the Coventry shows up will be a deserving favourite. Both should have learned plenty from that experience (possibly Zoffany in particular) and shaped as if there was better to come.

Tashqeel has to be of interest in the 7f Group 2 maiden on Friday night?
 
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Waiting a few weeks for this Tasqueel to run. I asked had he had a setback but they obviously just had this race in mind. The two O'Brien horses Zoffany and Samuel Moorse being fav would not frighten me, neither look that good to me. I'd want to be with Longhunter in a big way.
 
Sheikh -as I said I have a spreadsheet detailing all the shops within a 7 mile radius and my opinion of the sequence to hit them.Variable amounts under a ton throughout the day.Even with closures Waterford is saturated with betting offices-repeat this exercise in Dublin and Cork with a last minute surge before the off.
 
Surely to maximise the return you need to get as much of the money on at the same time as possible. Say there are fourty shops in a 7 mile radius ? 40 at a ton each (or less) is 3k. Not exactly a coup ?
 
4K -the shops in question can be done in under 2 hours-one man-reduces the risk of leaks and the time involved means area further away can be dealt with
 
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