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No - though there is an Eggs Benedict schism:

The classic history

A Wall Street banker named LeGrand Benedict, a regular patron of Manhattan's ritzy Delmonico's restaurant, complained that he was bored with the menu. The chef's response was this dish. A variant origin myth credits, instead of the chef, the Delmonico maitre d' and a Mrs Benedict. The name of the chef, and indeed any real facts about the genesis of eggs Benedict, are lost to history. The new Joy of Cooking (Scribner, 1997) dates the dish in the 1920s, and says the original base may have been toast.

The revisionist history

One Cutts Benedict claims that eggs Benedict was born when his father's cousin, Lemuel Benedict, a Wall Street broker, asked for toast, bacon, poached eggs, and a "hooker" (pitcher) of hollandaise, all as a hangover cure, in 1894 at the Waldorf Hotel, where chef Oscar Tschirky then added it to the menu.

The discounted history

Some in the old South say it was invented at Brennan's Restaurant in New Orleans, but that's the least credible story.
 
he (my father) was 19 years when he was recruited to the army. before this, he applied for the SS in their local office but was rejected, i think because he was too young (but do not ask me why on the other hand he did not join the HJ, i dont know...)
he served 5 years in the army then a 4 further years in a russian war-prison.
his two brothers both were lost in the war.
recently when my old aunt died at 95, i found in her old things the calling up order of my uncle which is so sad, that i nearly fell into tears when i read it. it has 31 words, was adressed to a 22 year old (young boy), ordering him to the army, from wich he did not return.
 
John Kerry storms around the country with a populist message of righteous anger at those companies who incorporate offshore in order to take advantage of legal tax shelters. Continuing his theme of irrelevant patriotic qualifications, he's called the CEOs of such corporations "Benedict Arnolds", after the Revolutionary War general who tried to give West Point to the British. Yesterday, the Washington Post and MS-NBC reported that some of Kerry's biggest donors were the CEOs of such companies, leaving the candidate with some egg on his face:

Executives and employees at such companies have contributed more than $140,000 to Kerry's presidential campaign, a review of his donor records show. Additionally, two of Kerry's biggest fundraisers, who together have raised more than $400,000 for the candidate, are top executives at investment firms that helped set up companies in the world's best-known offshore tax havens, federal records show. Kerry has raised nearly $30 million overall for his White House run. ...

[Kerry] sought to clarify his position: "What I've said is not that people don't have the right to go overseas and form a company if they want to avoid the tax. I don't believe the American taxpayer ought to be giving them a benefit. That's what I object to. I don't object to global commerce. I don't object to companies deciding they want to compete somewhere else.''

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Who's the patron saint of Talking Horses, by the way? He seems to be just as retiring as Brussels Benedict.
 
When my great uncle died recently his wife , who has since died herself, sent his medals back to us - He was 20 at Dunkirk and never talked about it or D-Day until very shortly before he died . When waiting on the beach to be evacuated friends were blown to bits in front of him . That is no thing to see at any age let alone 20 .

Seeing those medals was very sad
 
wassermusik.
same as my Father-in-Law. shot in the shoulder in Russia managed to get back to Paderborn.He was born in Allenstein(very close to the Polish border)He died around 18 months ago,shortly after his wife.
 
Not really dvds.
could all have been avoided if he had refrained from posting it in the first place.
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I'm glad for that advice, now if everyone takes it there will be no need for moderators any more :brows:

Moderating is easy.It is a bit time consuming,but allowing contributers to post within the rules is not a difficult task.
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Funny that as I don't know any moderators of any forum (with a decent amount of members) who think it's easy. How many forums do you moderate?

The hard bit is avoiding the "it's my ball syndrome" and having favourites who essentially can post anything they like.
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Well unfortunately that happens every day in every job/school etc. Everyone always have favorites and if you think that doesn't happen I think you want to have a close look at what happens in the real world.
 
No doubt Derek's "objective" posting is directed at me. He has repeatedly made the allegation that both Col and myself have allowed others to escape censure . In particular , the allegation was made in respect of Shadow Leader though I cannot remember the context . I reject it entirely . As she will tell you I have edited her postings .

Col :)
 
Kri - I know that Islam is not a race, stop splitting hairs!!! :lol: My point was (as I'm sure you are aware!!) that if similar comments were to made viz Islam, or Judaism, or Hinduism etc, etc there would be plenty of objections!!

For the record, (in case anyone is interested!!!) my great grandparents fled to England early in the 20th century to escape the growing Nazi regime. My great grandfather was imprisoned throughout the War too although he had fled Germany some twenty years or so previously.

And having just read Ardross' post - yes, he bloody has edited some of my postings before!!! :angy: :lol:

As I have said before, I really do think that the mods should be allowed to get on with their job without being objected to such abuse from people. I certainly don't envy the job that they have to do.
 
dvds.

I agree,lets start today.

until about three weeks ago one,with 1100 members,and no problems.*

The real world!

Which one is that then?

Maybe the one where one is not allowed to answer back?

Don't mean to get above my station,but you did ask.










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Well, if I've interpreted one of the above postings correctly, then our Benedict would appear to be able to condone support for the death penalty by practising Catholics as they would still be eligible to receive Communion but anyone who either had or performed an abortion would be excluded from receiving Communion.

Now I truly do find that illogical!
 
Il Papa, he say: "Capital punishment is a matter of conscience, contraception and abortion are a matter of doctrine"

And they are worried that they are haemmoraging members!
 
Worryingly for the Catholic Church - the new Pope's brother describes his health as not stable whatever that means .
 
Unstable,taken in context.Probably means that he is heatlhy enough to be the Leader of the Labour Party,but not healthy enough to ride a bike.
 
I've been doing a bit of religious research on patron saints. I didn't realise what large portfolios they had. Even St Tone of Sedgefield couldn't handle it in the way those good old saints do - just take St Anthony of Padua. I thought that he came in handy when you were looking for lost things but he's got patronage :

against shipwrecks; against starvation; against starving; American Indians; amputees; animals; asses; barrenness; boatmen; Brazil; diocese of Beaumont, Texas; domestic animals; elderly people; expectant mothers; faith in the Blessed Sacrament; Ferrazzano, Italy; fishermen; harvests; horses; Lisbon, Portugal; lost articles; lower animals; mail; mariners; oppressed people; Padua, Italy; paupers; poor people; Portugal; pregnant women; sailors; seekers of lost articles; shipwrecks; starvation; starving people; sterility; swineherds; Tigua Indians; travel hostesses; travellers; watermen.

You'll see that he has horses in there but it's travel hostesses that interest me.

Now St George is usually seen on a horse, and I know that he has got England, Portugal and occasionally the National Front so I investigated him. Blow me, he's busier than Anthony:

Aragon; agricultural workers; archers; armourers; Beirut, Lebanon; Boy Scouts; butchers; Canada; Cappadocia; Catalonia; cavalry; chivalry; Constantinople; Crusaders; England (by Pope Benedict XIV); equestrians; farmers; Ferrara Italy; field hands; field workers; Genoa Italy; Georgia; Germany; Gozo; Greece; herpes; horsemen; horses; husbandmen; Istanbul; knights; lepers; leprosy; Lithuania; Malta; Moscow; Order of the Garter; Palestine; Palestinian Christians; plague; Portugal; riders; saddle makers; saddlers; skin diseases; skin rashes; soldiers; syphilis; Teutonic Knights; Venice.

Quite a horsey portfolio, but herpes skin rashes and syphilis! Anything to do with St Anthony's travel hostesses, do you think? And Palestine may keep him a bit busy.

Then there's St Martin, about whom I remembered only one thing - how he cut his heavy cloak in half and gave half to a beggar who was freezing. He could almost have ben the founder of Oxfam shops. But his patronages contain a few that are relevant:

against impoverishment, against poverty, alcoholism, beggars, Burgenland, cavalry, equestrians, France, geese, horse men, horses, hotel-keepers, innkeepers, quartermasters, reformed alcoholics, riders, soldiers, tailors, vintners, wine growers, wine makers

And I see that he manages to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, encompassing as he does reformed alcoholics, vintners, wine growers and wine makers (and France!)

Another old favourite is St Vincent de Paul, who somewhat surprisingly has time to cover horses among all his charities:

charitable societies, charitable workers, charities, horses, hospital workers, hospitals, lepers, leprosy, lost articles, Madagascar, prisoners, diocese of Richmond Virginia, spiritual help, Saint Vincent de Paul Societies, Vincentian Service Corps, volunteers.

I'd never heard of St Leonard of Noblac:

against burglaries, against robberies, against robbers, blacksmiths, burglaries, captives, childbirth, coal miners, coopers, coppersmiths, greengrocers, grocers, horses, imprisoned people, locksmiths, miners, porters, P.O.W.'s prisoners, prisoners of war, robberies, robbers.

I thought at first that he was some sort of Tony Martin type character (the one with a gun, not the trainer) as he is a patron saint against burglaries and robberies but I see that he takes the liberal view of "hate the crime, love the criminal" as he also has burglars, robbers and imprisoned people. I guess today he'd be a LibDem.

How about St Eligius?

agricultural workers, blacksmiths, boilermakers, cab drivers, carriage makers, cart makers, cartwrights, clock makers, coin collectors, craftsmen, cutlers, farm workers, farmers, farriers, garage workers, gas station workers, gilders, gold workers, goldsmiths, harness makers, horses, horseshoe makers, jewelers, jockeys, knife makers, laborers, locksmiths, metal collectors, metal workers, metalsmiths, miners, minters, minting, numismatics, numismatists, precious metal collectors, saddle makers, saddlers, sick horses, taxi drivers, tool makers, veterinarians, watch makers, wheelwrights

He has patronage over a lot of forum related people and things. I expect that curently Alan Berry's farrier is keeping him busy with intercessions. The trouble is that no one has ever heard of him, but he has the most relevance so far.

We all know of St Giles though - he has a circus at the junction of Oxford Street, New Oxford Stret, Charing Cross Road and Tottenham Court Road. Quite fitting that he has patronage over beggars, ten.

beggars, blacksmiths, breast cancer, breast feeding, cancer patients, cripples, disabled people, Edinburgh Scotland, epilepsy, epileptics, fear of night, forests, handicapped people, hermits, horses, insanity, lepers, leprosy, mental illness, mentally ill people, physically challenged people, paupers, poor people, rams, spur makers, sterility, woods

He'd be quite handy with insanity as part of his brief, but I'm not sure that we have too much ned for the breast-feeding bit.

St Hippolytus has the right name and doesn't appear to be as busy as the others:

horses, prison guards, prison officers, prison workers

It wouldn't be hard to spot the odd one out in his little lot, would it? Due to a clerical error St Hippolytus was inadvertenly listed as two people, Hippolytus of Rome and Hippolytus of Porto, on some calendars. Quite suitable for a forum such as ours which boasts the odd dual personality or six!

Finally, St Leger, whose real name, I have discovered, is St Leodegarius:

blindness, eyes, eye disease, eye problems, sore eyes, millers

Not a horse in sight and it seems to me that his various patronages are more suited to the stewards than the forum...
 
I used to enjoy reading about the old Saxon saints in the Anglo Saxon Chronicle - strangely they would often appear in visions and strike down Norman knights and barons . St Ethelberta appeared to one Norman baron and struck him down .

Politically motivated saints whatever next . Lanfranc, the Norman Archbishop of Canterbury got the Pope to revoke many of their sainthoods
 
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