Clivex, you really do talk a load of rubbish. Were you born rude or have you taken lessons?Originally posted by clivex@Jan 19 2007, 11:37 AM
Sadly, I also have this gut feeling that she does represent typical white British views in the 21st Century.
Well, your gut feeling is crap and Jade Goody is mixed race anyway
I get sick and tired of sanctimonious idiots (often seemingly from countries where race attitudes are pretty poor) assuming that because of one or two low lifes the rest of the british population can be tarred with the same brush
So I suppose Jade goody will get the public support tonight then will she???
You should judge this from the reaction to her ignorant behaviour rather than from the behaviour itself
In effect your comments are equally bigoted
And i suspect you are simply wanting to believe what you want to believe too
From the snippets I've picked up, her behaviour seems to be worse than Goody's by some distance, and yet she's been given a remarkably easy time of it by comparison to Bermondsy's finest. I think it might have been Euro who picked up the fact that the ugly, fat loud mouth is an easier target. That Danielle viper is certainly the more poisonous of the two, and has gone a lot closer than any of the others to overt rascism. Goody's probably to thick to realise what she's said.Originally posted by clivex@Jan 19 2007, 12:17 PM
apparently the vile danielle had certain views about immigration before the programme
Care to explain that last remark? I for one would be extremely interested to hear exactly what you mean by it.Originally posted by clivex@Jan 19 2007, 01:17 PM
apparently the vile danielle had certain views about immigration before the programme
Well danielle
Immigrants come here to WORK and CONTRIBUTE (not sponge from) to the economy. They do not WHINGE and they more often than not respect this great country and look forward with a positive view
Danielle is from Liverpool
1. A gut feeling is purely personal and real. It cannot by definition be 'crap'.
2. If you view Jade Goody in terms of her ethnic origins it says more about you than it does about me.
3. You seem to take any opportunity to call me a sanctimonious idiot because of views expressed on other threads. You are as much a bully as the morons on the show.
4. My views are based on personal experience of racial abuse from white English people. Sadly, I have received jsut as much of it as I have received warmth from fellow forumites at meet-ups.
5. JG probably will not get much support tonight because those who share here views would be too ashamed to turn up. Those who would have turned up would be those more willing to express their disgust and those would only number a few dozen from a population of 50m.
6. My comments are anything but bigoted. Having been on the receiving end of physical abuse on religious grounds since childhood, I'm not blind to bigotry. In that respect, you should perhaps look closer to home, ideally in the mirror.
7. I would so love my gut feeling to be wrong.
8. In summary, your comments on this forum mark you out as a bigot and a bully
Originally posted by Dave G@Jan 19 2007, 01:40 PM
Danielle is from Liverpool
If she does prevent a riot, or more pertinenetly can promote tolerance, integration and a better understanding amongst different communities and their target generations, then the likes of Danielle Lloyd will be more and more marginalised. It usually involves a drive to try and fuse communities together more, instead of allowing them to develop in isolation and hence draw only on what are often faith based ideologies, with all their attendant dangers. It's not actually to be sniffed at as much as you think. As you might imagine if you apply a bit of thought rather than glibly dismissing it, it can actually be quite dangerous work, as you're essentially eroding the local power bases of influential 'quasi autonomous community leaders' and seeking to replace them with a more integrated model of inter community engagement. On top of that its not unusual for such officers to run up against intimidation from the more violent elements of the British right either. It's actually quite complicated as there's 101 sub sectarian divides operating across different communities with each other, as well as within the communities of concern. Some are undoubtedly more problematic to deal with than others, and two in particular border on the impossible. The broard philosophy is to try and bring groups closer together rather than allow them to develop in isolation and ignorance of each other, as the former usually provides fertile ground to propogate the type of tensions and violence that can otherwise define their boundaries and existance
Shilpa is a complete ride
I also have this gut feeling that she does represent typical white British views in the 21st Century.
JG probably will not get much support tonight because those who share here views would be too ashamed to turn up. Those who would have turned up would be those more willing to express their disgust and those would only number a few dozen from a population of 50m.