On The Bridle
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Go Native ran a cracker today on the flat...had a tickle for the Champion at 50/1....they never come back .....maybe this time
Champion Hurdle 2013
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SlimChance
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Did he break down in the race when sent off 11/4 fav? I'd have laid you 66/1 by the way. NO CHANCE.
Gradoquet wins.
BennyB
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Do we know for sure what the plan for Simonsig is? I'd fancy him strongly if he stayed over hurdles.
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He will be no 66/1 shot on the day after he sluices up in the Morgiana and Christmas Hurdle - #machinedotcom
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I cannot see him him going over fences unless he has disimproved majorly. If he has is doesn't really matter anyway. Interestingly Meade blamed Emmet McNamara directly for yesterday's loss. Unlike Meade to do that....must be feeling the pressure.
I thought he was hard on the bridle without cover a long way out while the winner was being pumped up to gather momentum.The second horse Cairdin onviously has an engine but I don't think he is a natural jumper of fences and I would be keen to take him
on next time out.
on next time out.
simmo
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Just think there is what looks like an average bunch of hurdlers around at the moment.
simmo
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On The Bridle
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There is. But that's no excuse to go around making up words.
disimproved is a perfectly logical word....cannot understand why its not in your dictionary....you may need to go out and buy a new one simmo
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Simonsig with a run...got to be there or thereabouts
Bar the Bull
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There is. But that's no excuse to go around making up words.
It's a perfectly cromulent word.
Don't mind him, OTB, a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
Desert Orchid
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So what would it take to disembiggen him?
Bar the Bull
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If you take away words like disimprove, you debigulate our vocabulary.
Desert Orchid
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Yes, but there must be ways of undebigulating it.
Euronymous
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At the current prices the only one I'd even contemplate backing is Hurricane Fly. The tactics were wrong last year and at 7.2 on the machine chances are he'll be 4 or 5 after his first run. Good trading opportunity.
Simonsig is gonna be a better chase. End of
Everything went right for Rock on Ruby last year.
Grandouet is too short and I don't trust him to either get to the race or complete if he does
Cinders and Ashes. Not convinced the Supreme was that good.
Zarkandar is too slow and should be in the World Hurdle
Darlan. Should be 25s not 16s.
Simonsig is gonna be a better chase. End of
Everything went right for Rock on Ruby last year.
Grandouet is too short and I don't trust him to either get to the race or complete if he does
Cinders and Ashes. Not convinced the Supreme was that good.
Zarkandar is too slow and should be in the World Hurdle
Darlan. Should be 25s not 16s.
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Zenyatta
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Hurricane Fly is too short in terms of winning the Champion Hurdle in my opinion. To my eye his last two performances were most disappointing (Champion and at Punchestown), looking laboured in both, particularly the latter. Given Mullin's concerns pre-season and his subsequent performances I think it possible, or even likely, that he was hugely flattered when winning the Irish Champion on bad ground. Furthermore, the form of his Champion win maybe doesn't look as strong as it did at the time. As a flat bred 8/9yo I won't be backing him to regain his form, if indeed his best form is good enough to win another Champion.
However, as a trading opportunity, there could be room for manoeuvre, he'll likely win a couple in Ireland en route and be shorter as a result.
However, as a trading opportunity, there could be room for manoeuvre, he'll likely win a couple in Ireland en route and be shorter as a result.
Euronymous
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I don't agree. Oscar Whisky and Thousand Stars have upheld that form and I don't think you can damn it with Peddlers woes over fences. It was certainly a lot stronger renewal than the two or three that preceded it.
EC1
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some of you won't rate this opinion but when i looked at the sectionals for last years CH i formed a simplistic opinion that HF actually lost the race in a large part before the first hurdle..he was held up as he normally is and throughout the race he just didn't pull back that 5 or 6 lengths he gave away to the first hurdle..its a though he was hanging on to the shirt tails of the race...ROR won with the extra stamina he had after setting strong sectionals which meant he didn't come back to them except just before the last when it looked like he was going to be swallowed up...then his stamina kicked in and he found again after the last.
if ROR had been just a 2 miler i have no doubt he would struggled after the last.
The year before the pace scenario played to HF..this year it didn't added to the fact that ROR basically did a Hardy Eustace and kept enough in the tank
i've not looked at the sectionals since then but i do think that in a race where ROR is able to dictate at just above even pace he will always beat HF over a stiff 2 miles..
if ROR had been just a 2 miler i have no doubt he would struggled after the last.
The year before the pace scenario played to HF..this year it didn't added to the fact that ROR basically did a Hardy Eustace and kept enough in the tank
i've not looked at the sectionals since then but i do think that in a race where ROR is able to dictate at just above even pace he will always beat HF over a stiff 2 miles..
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