Coronavirus

We don't want filth like 'Charlotte' posted on here, Simmo, thank you very much :lol:
 
This Coronavirus situation is becoming a show of how human being behaves against adversity

We live the ERA of stupidity, with the people not making responsible of their acts, of their votes , of the investments etc
People think that they go to university and have a mortgage and they deserve everything, we think no one can die and many more childhood behaviours.


It is pathetic to see people here blaming Trump or Johnson
We in Spain are feeling how communist and socialist rules the country and our economy will feel for a decade and many more people will die than in GB or USA.


What people should learn is that things have to be paid and that there will be deaths and car crashes and that there should not be billions for roads
that people can die from this disease and thats not the reason to have 3 more times of hospitals because the money is not infinite.




Lets hope we learn to work harder, the taxes become much smaller and to be responsible of the acts we do and not to think that the goverment is going to save us from everything, I fear it will not happen, that the national banks will print much more money for the lie to continue and people will continue buying the mediocre things the Chinese fabricate and having fear of flus.
 
gigilo said:
https://twitter.com/PeterG_69/status/1240629402293108738

The free market..
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Was called profiteering in the War and could be prosecuted for it....absolutely disgusting. I suspect a lot of people who are queuing outside supermarkets at silly hours with trolleys are doing this. The police have better things to do - pathetic.

On a separate note, now seems a run on a certain fizzy drink is occurring ....if I can't get something to put my spiced rum with there will be trouble!
 
Had a delivery last night, one third of the items missing and only a couple of substitutes added. Main thing missing was bread,must be completely sold out. Looking to next week's order ,all bread saying sold out plus most fruit and veg, will have to keep checking back to see if items come back into stock but that won't be any guarantee by the look of it.
 
I've been to the supermarket ~6 times over here in last 2 weeks and apart from finding it hard to get eggs, hand sanitizer and some Dettol fabric hygienge stuff Bean Ui Capall has developed an obsession with, I have yet to see a queue of more than 1 trolley at check out. It all seems very calm and orderly. That will probably all change when we start to eat each others brains.

Biggest nuisance (note: Art) they are only letting four people at a time into CAVISTONS in Glasthule. Takes a while to pick up the essential white truffles and lobster.
 
This was posted by a cardiologist today.


Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...
It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.
Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.
Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..
H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”
This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.
And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...
And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.
 
Diamond Geezer said:
Had a delivery last night, one third of the items missing and only a couple of substitutes added. Main thing missing was bread,must be completely sold out. Looking to next week's order ,all bread saying sold out plus most fruit and veg, will have to keep checking back to see if items come back into stock but that won't be any guarantee by the look of it.
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Can you substitute, say, rice cakes for bread. And get Vit C tablets if fresh fruit isn't available? I often eliminate bread from my diet [Ruby Walsh describes bread as 'the food of the devil'] and feel so much better without it. When I do have bread I freeze it and just get a slice out when needed; it's supposed to be better for blood sugar levels after freezing for some reason. Thankfully I restocked my fridge and larder several weeks ago. I'd been planning to do so anyway. And I tried polenta in a stew instead of potatoes. It was ok'ish…..I've discovered that there are many things I can freeze that I didn't know about eg bananas/lemons for smoothies. Worried that there may be power cuts in future months as so many of us are living out of our freezers.
 
I don't eat bread at all. I think that and booze is the main reason most men 40+ walk round with dad bods. I use Tortilla wraps if I fancy a sausage sandwich. They're more healthy and take up hardly any room storage wise.
 
Diamond Geezer said:
Main thing missing was bread,must be completely sold out.
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I'm fortunate enough to have an independent baker nearby and wandered up there today for my usual Friday order of two small loaves and a litre of milk. Got them but was told that as all and sundry are turning up from elsewhere they're going to prioritise local regulars who must nevertheless place an order the day before

Had a wander into town yesterday for a few 'essentials' and although the streets and shops are eerily quiet I was surprised by how many (relatively speaking) folk, of all ages, there were in cafes and pubs. It will surely be only a matter of days, perhaps hours, before mandatory closure is announced which is probably what should have been done in the first place

Those disregarding pleas to 'socially distance' and to avoid panic-buying would do well to consider that continuation of their selfish actions will almost inevitably result in some degree of Martial Law, as is approximately the case in France, Spain and Italy
 
I love salad in Deli wraps [even though I don't like salad in general]. But they have a very high fat content. Then again, I'm not using butter with them. Took the dog for a walk yesterday and did all the social distancing stuff and, blow me, someone walked up to her and stroked her. Mike said he 'couldn't avoid it' even though the man was several feet away and the dog was on a lead [men; paah!]. Washed all of her head before I allowed her back in the house. Mind you, DD who is talking to a lot of her medical friends said that it's spread person to person more than hand to surface, and that we mustn't speak to anyone.
 
Classic disaster capitalism shown over a two week period,who knew? everyone bar the tories apparently delay,delay,delay then the u turns this is playing out like an apocalypse
i still can't believe what i'm watching relying on Boris johnson,Matt Hancock and some son in law of a billionaire,meanwhile Tim Marin moaning about keeping his pubs open..His sorts are utter vermin,i see it's not just the old either because 50% of ICU are between 20-54 in france and 30% will have permanent lung damage...The damage has been done in the delays,this will be everywhere now,wouldn't be surprised to see this appearing in china again either..
 
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I went into large supermarket on the way home - their petrol is very cheap for now - everything now being affected, no toothpaste. Non. Frozen veg none. Crisp aisle , decimated. (Crisps are my thing.....) . Cereals none. Meat in chilled section - none, absolutely none. Eggs none. etc etc...loads of empty shelves had notes saying only 3 per customer. At the checkout, lady says you can't have all these carrots ( 5 x 1kg bags)., you're only supposed to have 3. I said there was no sign above the carrots limiting to 3 and they are for my horse. Okay this time you can have them she says . Well no anytime right now because they are not being rationed yet....but I can hardly buy anything else if I wanted to so....... but very noticeable prices gone up on a lot of stock items, and I bet they don't put them down once this is all over. Still every little helps...obviously a large supermarket chain right now anyway.
 
Lol there's absolutely zilch in the supermarkets,again we have the next three weeks time slots filled for deliveries fcuk all in the house,but we do have a tonne of bog roll,mrs got it when she left her job working for school suppliers,so the cheap rough on arse stuff..Although probably edible but nothing to put on it..
 
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G-G said:
At the checkout, lady says you can't have all these carrots ( 5 x 1kg bags)., you're only supposed to have 3. I said there was no sign above the carrots limiting to 3 and they are for my horse. Okay this time you can have them she says
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Not questioning your attitude to the lady G-G, but it strikes me as unfair that checkout staff on or near the minimum wage are being asked to police this rationing, which can only add to the stress they're under. Human nature being what it is I feel sure some/many will have suffered abuse from those hoping to buy armfuls of an item. IMO supermarkets really need to employ extra security to aid checkout staff
 
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Look at countries in "lockdown". They have regulated entry and exit procedures to supermarkets and shelves are rammed full.
 
Anyone got a spare can of beans and a cup of rice..got loads of bog roll in exchange..
 
I was in the supermarket quite early today but even then then most of the shelves were empty - nobody gives a toss about us shoplifters
 
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