Explosion On The Tube

A very powerful piece, Brian. The emergency services do an incredible job and how they can face things like that every day I do not know. Paramedics and ambulance staff must be so incredibly strong - I knew a paramedic a few years back as I worked for his parents, he was a lovely bloke and he did say that sometimes the job does get to you, especially when it involved children; I saw him very upset a few times as he came back from work after particularly horrendous encounters. I was on the brink of applying for a job as a paramedic with the Berkshire Ambulance Service a few years ago but it was the thought of some of the horrific situations that occur that stopped me - I'm not sure I could handle it as I gwt very emotional. Likewise, the police are constantly getting stick and abuse from the general public - but they have to deal with these situations that I'm sure a lot of us couldn't handle, as illustrated in Brian's piece.
 
3 people have been arrested at Heathrow under the Terrorists act but police cannot say whether it is linked with the bombings or not. :huh:
 
Nothing to do with the London bombings - well, probably...

Brian Paddick cautioned against linking the three to Thursday's explosions saying "I am told that it is inappropriate and pure speculation at this stage to be drawing any direct linkages with the attacks in London, and at this stage we are not in a position to give any further information.''

So, make of that what you will.
 
WIMPS!


US bans military staff from travelling to London

Hugh Muir
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian


America has banned its 12,000 airforce personnel stationed in the UK from travelling to London to "ensure their safety and security" in the aftermath of last week's bombings in the capital.

A directive was issued to all United States Air Force staff just 24 hours after the terrorist attacks. It states that even senior officers must apply for permission to travel from the barracks in East Anglia - where many are based - to meetings in London. The ban prevents them from entering areas inside the M25 and family members, who are not subject to orders, are also being urged to stay away.

The directive has led to the staff at air bases having to cancel sight-seeing coach trips and excursions to theatre shows and other events for personnel and their families.

UK tourism authorities have pointed out the policy contra dicts police advice that London is open for business and returning to normal.

A USAF spokeswoman at Mildenhall in Suffolk said: "The order was made in a battle staff directive from our wing commander.

"Military members are not allowed to go to London until further notice. They are not being allowed to go anywhere inside the M25.

"Family members who are US civilians and are not subject to orders are also being highly encouraged to stay away from London.

"The main reason is because the security of our people is our top concern."

A USAF spokesman at nearby Lakenheath, which is home to about 60 F-15 fighters and fighter bombers, defended the ban. He said: "We are taking prudent measures to ensure the security and safety of our airmen, civilians, their families and our resources."

Patricia Yates, a spokeswoman for the UK tourism authority VisitBritain, said the US military's behaviour seemed at odds with the attitude of many American visitors.

"It is up to the American military to make their own deci sion on these matters - but our information is that American tourists have not been put off coming over from the States," she said.
 
Seems a strange contradiction that the American Tourist (complete with pot belly, bum bag and zoom lens camera-on-a-strap) goes where the American Soldier dares not.
 
Ah, but isn't that because an American soldier is far superior to the civilian Americans?! He is, after all, busy making the world safe for all we lesser mortals....
 
Bomb police search houses in Leeds



LONDON (Reuters) - Police searched five homes in Leeds on Tuesday in the hunt for suspected al Qaeda bombers who killed at least 52 people in London train and bus attacks last week.

It was the first reported swoop since last Thursday's explosions and came as frustration mounted at what many grieving relatives feel is slow progress in formally identifying the victims.

Detectives called the swoop "significant" but there was no early word of any arrests.

Leeds has one of the biggest Muslim populations in Britain.

In May 2001, it was one of a series of northern towns which saw rioting between Asian and white youths blamed on ethnic, religious and racial divisions.

In Brussels on Tuesday, finance minister Gordon Brown pressed the European Union to speed up a raft of measures aimed at cutting off terrorism funding.

In the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks on U.S. cities and the March, 2004 Madrid train bombings, the 25-nation bloc agreed to tighten controls on money transfers and seizing the assets of suspects. Brown wants them to move faster.

But top EU Commission official Fabio Colasanti said a proposal from Britain, Ireland, France and Sweden to log all phone and Internet usage for long periods to help combat terrorism is unrealistic.

ANGRY RELATIVES

Defence Secretary John Reid appealed to anxious relatives for more time. "It is better to get this right than to get it rushed," he said.

Five days after London's worst peacetime bomb attack, Emmanuel Wundowa angrily complained that he first found out on television that his wife Gladys had been identified as a victim.

"Nobody is telling me anything," he said. "If they have got some information that is of benefit to me, why don't they pass it on to me?"

University College London, where she worked as a cleaner, first identified her as one of the victims and then apologetically withdrew the statement.

The most public face of grief was offered by Marie Fatayi-Williams who flew in from Nigeria to find out what had happened to her son Anthony.

During an emotional speech made just yards from the wreckage of the bus blown up in Tavistock Square, she held up photos of her son and pleaded for information.

"This is Anthony, my first son, my only son. He is the love of my life," she said. "I need to know what happened."

USAF LONDON BAN

The United States was lambasted by the UK media on Tuesday for ordering its 10,000 Air Force personnel stationed in Britain to stay away from London.

Reid said his office had been in touch with the U.S. embassy. "I understand this is being urgently reviewed," he said.

As police continued checking hundreds of hours of CCTV footage from the London underground system and elsewhere, a poll in the London Times newspaper showed an overwhelming majority of Britons would support tough new measures.

Some 86 percent of those questioned backed giving police new powers to arrest people they suspect of planning attacks and 88 percent said they were in favour of tighter controls on who comes into Britain.
 
yes and arrest have been made also and controlled explosions @ Leeds and Luton railway station too...................

It was first reported that a person with massive injuries was on the bus and the injuries were condusive or similar as to other suicide bombers injuries, so there was some substance in that report, also a guy who was constantly seen fidgitting with an holdhall type bag..............

And from this guys I.D. the hunt was started in Leeds..................
 
It's amazing how quickly the investigation has progressed - almost worryingly so. I'd imagine the plethora of CCTV and motorway camera footage has been particularly helpful.
 
My ex-DCI colleague at Brighton and Lingfield reckons that they'll determine if the bombers died in the various blasts, from the body counts: i.e., if there's an unclaimed body (or extra parts of one) that doesn't fit with the 'missing', the chances are it's one of the bombers. It's no doubt one of the reasons why the Police are searching the tube so very carefully, looking for indications of an unclaimed body.

He seems convinced that the guy on the bus 'went off' accidentally, and was probably on his way to plant a bomb in another station. He bases this on the man sitting in the 'wrong' position to maximize blast: a 'proper' bus bomber sits in the middle of the bus, and would have sat downstairs, not up, to have maximized the carnage on a double-decker. So it looks as if he was having bomb-related problems en route to placing it in a station. Since it would've done far more damage there, one can only say thank goodness for small mercies, whatever comfort that is to the families of the victims he did kill.

What a terrific job has, and is, being done by all of the services so far. The Police did a great job in clearing the roads for the emergency services, who are continuing to do marvellously, and now the special investigators who've worked on the bus and the tunnels are finding evidence and clues. If all of the bombers did detonate themselves, at least we won't have to fund expensive trials, keep them in jails in accordance with their Human Rights for the next 50+ years, and the families of the victims won't have to hear about their regular appeals over and over again.
 
well the story is that this guy on the bus was supposed to go on the northern line and they closed it just prior to them going on their different routes... one went on the west line one on the east line one on the south line... so the guy must have pannicked and got on the number 30 bus outside Kingscross so he may have set it off by mistake or thought he would let it go regardless......thus his possible seat/ position on the bus....
 
Yes. Kudos to the security services. I had hoped that they would catch them alive and gather information. I suppose even knowing who they are will help them put together identities for their helpers and funders.
 
Is it the heat?

Silly season?

James, prejudice is subjective, not objective, so you would have been better off just saying 'please keep on topic'.

Brian - you just need more to do, obviously - hasn't Mrs Brian got some trinkets she needs you to buy for her?

Chill, people!
 
Twoddle Julie . If for example a forumite was to say All Moslems are extremists - that is a remark of which an objective judgment can be made that it is prejudiced .
 
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