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Second time i saw Resevior dogs I couldnt watch it to the end. Its garbage really

Has any film ever been overrated as much as Pulp Fiction too? It was boring

Seeing War Horse tomorrow on a preview. Expecting good things
 
Clive,
You do know War Horse is a Spielberg film? Hence, it will be sentimental rubbish, dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I'd avoid and go see the show.
 
I do know. I wouldnt say that about schindlers and definitely not about Munich (his best i think). Enjoyed private ryan too

Theres a lot of spielberg films i havent and probably wont see (Jaws, ET) but he can deliver
 
Munich is embarassingly bad. His films are made without a hint of subtlety, just in case there isn't someone somewhere who doesn't get the point he is trying to make in a particular scene. Everyone of his films, like many American ones, have to use music to tell people what to feel - he's dreadful, but has found his niche and has a large target audience.
 
Hamm said:
Everyone of his films, like many American ones, have to use music to tell people what to feel - he's dreadful, but has found his niche and has a large target audience.
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Indiana Jones was unwatchable with the sound on the music was so intrusive. But I can forgive him pretty much anything just for this scene, one of the best ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9S41Kplsbs
 
Thats nonsense. Munich was full of questions and dilemmas as encapsulated by the lead character . It was anything but a straightforward storytelling and left the audience to make its own mind up

Its a fine film.
 
Bizarrely, I - choke, gasp! - find I agree with you, Clivex, re a second sitting of ResDogs. Not sure I'd go so far as to say it's garbage, because it seemed fairly imaginative at the time, but it isn't at all subtle and certainly isn't witty. Pulp Fiction was quite amusing, I thought, particularly the Travolta/Jackson schtick.

As always, Spielberg divides the critics - those along the lines of the film being oversentimentalized, and those finding it poignant and touching. Was the live "war" horse used to promote the film a harbinger of box office reaction to come? It dunged on the red carpet at the premiere.
 
**** all this filmly ****. There's more important stuff to deal with - like why the **** do we have a ******* profanity monitor?

Admin, what's the story? Why are we being treated like children?
 
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**** all this filmly ****. There's more important stuff to deal with - like why the **** do we have a ******* profanity monitor?

Admin, what's the story? Why are we being treated like children?
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Have you anything ******* better to do with yourself than worry about a ******* filter?
 
I believe the reason it's on was because some members could not access the website from work due to the swearing (I **** you not). Lads dossing at work and people wonder why the countries fucked.
 
Saw a War horse premier and its fine. Definately a bit sentimental at times (especially early on) but last hour kicks in well and has some truely memorable scenes

Very old fashioned film making and definately moving in places

Also reminds us that Dartmoor is one of the most stunning landscapes
 
Don't know if anyone else got this in their region, but last night on South Today there was a splendid feature about a book by Brough Scott, called Warrior, which has been re-offered by the Racing Post. Warrior was a real war horse who carried his master through the battles of the Somme, Ypres, and Passchendale unscathed, retiring to hunt and to finally be pts at the age of 33 in the 1940s. He also took part in a pivotal cavalry charge which repulsed encroaching German lines - there was a fabulous clip which I don't know came from the film, or was specially staged for the piece, but it was outstanding. There is a striking portrait of Warrior by Alfred Munnings, with his owner atop in cavalry kit, hanging in the Seely family home.

Warrior was owned by the Seely family and the grandson spoke very movingly of the intense bond between his grandfather and the horse. There were some splendid shots which I think must've been taken out of the film, to support the Warrior story, and I have to say the sight of a horse and rider cutting along a high ridge to the strains of Elgar's exquisite Nimrod immediately brought a burst of tears, daft old sod that I am.

The piece also included some WWI footage of gun horses literally hock-deep in mud, stoically squelching their way to their emplacements. Over a million horses of different breeds took part in the war, less than a third survived it. Along with thousands of humble pigeons ferrying messages past shot and shell, which in her book Animals At War, Jilly Cooper asserts resulted in hundreds of lives being saved, we might've seen a different turn to the tide of war without our animal friends.
 
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clivex said:
Theres a lot of spielberg films i havent and probably wont see (Jaws, ET) but he can deliver
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Depending on what you are looking for Jaws and ET are excellent pieces of entertainment - which is what mass market motion pictures should be about unless we are pretending that it is art.
 
Darn right - I can re-watch Jaws in particular, any time, the same way I can watch any Hitchcock film (also great entertainment, without pretensions). There's always a snobbery attached to anything that pleases the public, though, Simmo, isn't there? Whether it's poetry, paintings, fashion, music, or film - if enough people love it, it's not 'artistic'. Which is balls, given the craftsmanship which went into those films, the whole Star Wars series, Unforgiven, Once Upon a Time in the West, etc., etc.
 
Simmo Hrizon. Never said otherwise, but they are films that dont greatly appeal and never have, in much tthe same way that horror and sci fi leaves me cold. Never seen Star wars and can guarantee you i never would

Goodfellows (although i have slight preference for Casino) Casablanca, life of Brian and way out west all appealed to the public in different ways and are all great films in their own right

But a personal preference is away from hollywood blockbusters

And in truth, if we are driven by what "appeals to the public" at any one time and put that on a pedestal, Van gogh would have remained anonymous, the Beatles would still be in Hamburg, all architecture would look like Prince charles godawful Poundberry and the only films we would see would be spin offs of the Carry on series

Point is that that derivative conservative art takes us no where where it is innovation that is the interesting driving force

the film construction and direction of We need to talk about Kevin was far more gripping and fascinating than War Horse's rather 1950's hollywood schmaltz
 
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Don't know if anyone else got this in their region, but last night on South Today there was a splendid feature about a book by Brough Scott, called Warrior, which has been re-offered by the Racing Post. Warrior was a real war horse who carried his master through the battles of the Somme, Ypres, and Passchendale unscathed, retiring to hunt and to finally be pts at the age of 33 in the 1940s. He also took part in a pivotal cavalry charge which repulsed encroaching German lines - there was a fabulous clip which I don't know came from the film, or was specially staged for the piece, but it was outstanding. There is a striking portrait of Warrior by Alfred Munnings, with his owner atop in cavalry kit, hanging in the Seely family home.

Warrior was owned by the Seely family and the grandson spoke very movingly of the intense bond between his grandfather and the horse. There were some splendid shots which I think must've been taken out of the film, to support the Warrior story, and I have to say the sight of a horse and rider cutting along a high ridge to the strains of Elgar's exquisite Nimrod immediately brought a burst of tears, daft old sod that I am.

The piece also included some WWI footage of gun horses literally hock-deep in mud, stoically squelching their way to their emplacements. Over a million horses of different breeds took part in the war, less than a third survived it. Along with thousands of humble pigeons ferrying messages past shot and shell, which in her book Animals At War, Jilly Cooper asserts resulted in hundreds of lives being saved, we might've seen a different turn to the tide of war without our animal friends.
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He was PTS because 'locals' protested that he should not be allowed to live on a horse when people were on rations, so he was PTS and eaten.
 
Last chance today to fill your Meryl Streep jam jar today. The Golden Globes are tonight and if she wins as expected than the 5/6 for her to win best actress will collapse.
 
Slightly off tangent but related to War Horse, there is an exhibition at the Army Museum off Sloane Square if anyone is interested - free entry too!

Its not about the film but is called War Horse - Fact and Fiction (http://www.nam.ac.uk/microsites/war-horse/) - possibly a bit macbre but I am definitely going soon (luckily I work around the corner :))

As for films have watched, saw WARRIOR the other day with Tom Hardy. MMA (mixed martial arts) based and along the lines of Rocky/The Fighter. Passed the time on the bus but nothing fantastic. Nick Nolte played the dad.
 
Saw Shame today. A really fine film. The director is a big talent with a couple of scenes (the first subway and a later one, which i cant give away) really going to stick in memory

Its a good tough adult tale without sermonising or moralising. Will make you think. Quality

Theres a whole bunch of decent looking fiilms coming up
 
Just Googled it for reviews, Clivex, and I see it's about - simply put - addiction to sex. I thought there was a book by Coetzee called 'Shame' and wondered if it was a film version of that, but obviously it's not.
 
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