Fox Hunting

Hmmmm....you really do have bit of a class issue, don't you Ian??!!! :P :lol: I promise you.....the majority of people that hunt regularly are country folk & wouldn't be anywhere near as well off as you are!!!! :P :lol:
 
Question !


Have foxhounds been bred at the same rate within the last two years to previous or have the breeders reduced the number of breedings. If not why not ?

I haven't read through the whole thread just in case the answer is there !
 
Re the buckshot thing, I believe killing deer with buckshot was made illegal around 1960.

A question: If some people think that hunting folk, whether mounted or on foot, "get off" on animals being killed when they are almost certainly going to be hundreds of yards away when the "kill" happens, why do they consider this sport to be more abhorrent than angling, where the participants are only a few yards away?

"Or should be all congrate down the nearest abbatoir, get the sandwiches out, open some Pimm's and have a jolly afternoon watching the slaughtering?"

Good idea, Ian, I congrate you on it. Personally, although I'm not really an expert on such matters, I'd recommend a Halal slaughterhouse as the best option - the killing takes longer so it's better value for money, and...it's multicultural as well, so you can enjoy that warm PC feeling that you champagne socialists so relish!

(You must make allowances for Ian, he comes from Basingstoke you know)
 
Venusian,

Though I'm sure it's a matter of supreme indifference to you, I find you growing on me with every month that passes here. :lol:

However, I digress.

As I'm no great fan of angling, I wouldn't attempt to defend it relative to hunting.

Sorry about the ''eg'' - missing from ''congregate'' :lol: - I'll endeavour to reread my postings more carefully henceforth.

Champagne socialist?

Outrageous - I haven't touched a drop since at least Sunday. :lol:

Live in Basingstoke?

Well, I've told you that already (I like to give you a bit of ammunition to even things up a bit). :lol:
 
Going Going Gone - what ?not for 2 years? !!!! Blair is such a tosser. I wonder whose Idea this is Alan " Michael Howard with a Geordie Accent " Milburn
 
Ian, I unreservedly apologise about my "champagne socialists" remark in relation to you.

I had forgotten that Liebfraumilch has been Basingstoke's Wine of the Year for he past 20 years!
 
Not anywhere near as much as is wrong with Basingstoke!!!! :lol: :lol: Mind you...the cinema is pretty good!!! Sorry...did I tell you that when in the UK I'm based within 20 mins of the luverly Basingstoke??!!! Mind you, to be fair - it isn't anywhere near as bad as Bracknell....... :lol:
 
Originally posted by Shadow Leader@Sep 9 2004, 09:42 PM
Not anywhere near as much as is wrong with Basingstoke!!!! :lol: :lol: Mind you...the cinema is pretty good!!! Sorry...did I tell you that when in the UK I'm based within 20 mins of the luverly Basingstoke??!!! Mind you, to be fair - it isn't anywhere near as bad as Bracknell....... :lol:
After 18 years of living in London, I'm still finding it a pleasant novelty to be able to pop into a shopping centre in a matter of minutes and choose from around 1,000 free parking spaces - quite a sharp contrast from the tube-related nightmare of going shopping in London.

I miss the variety of restaurants - Thai, Korean, Japanese etc - in the old metropolis (which is neverthless just 45 minutes away by train if I ever feel the need to go there), but not much else.

And I'm 40 minutes from the coast in Hampshire, on the edge of Berkshire Watership Down country, just 14 miles from Newbury, and I traded in a one bedroom Docklands appartment for a three-bedroom house with a leafy garden for my son to play in.

Crap, soulless, new town with lots of roundabouts? :lol:

If you like, but I like it - each to their own. B)
 
Originally posted by Ian Davies@Sep 9 2004, 08:54 PM
Crap, soulless, new town with lots of roundabouts? :lol:

If you like, but I like it - each to their own. B)
I couldn't have described it better myself!!!! :lol:

Seriously though.....you're right, there are much worse places to live....and there is some stunning countryside around Basingstoke - all the various "-cleres" still draw admiration from me after 20 odd years of living by them!! Mind you, I do really like Newbury even if it's nothing much more than a market town - being a country lass I find it very difficult to live anywhere that has public transport & a shop within walking distance!!! Coming to Gib has been somewhat of a culture shock....
 
Having treated myself to yet another wrong turning when visiting friends 'up north' (north of the M23, anyway), I had the pleasure of motoring for considerably longer than anticipated in the area around Basingstoke. Jolly nice it was, too. Lots of nice big mature trees and pleasant fields. Houses looked decently maintained, no graffitti, and no litter immediately visible. Not a bit like Brighton. And not what I'd imagined for a large blob on the AA Atlas.
 
How did we get from Fox Hunting to Basingstoke .

I am not sure that I approve of drag hunting - is that men dressed up as woemn pursued by a pack of hounds? - then again Danny la Rue deserves it .

On a more serious note hare coursing is to be rendered illegal immediately - will Sir Bloody break the law ? If so I call for an exemplary sentence !!!
 
Basingstoke better than Bracknell?

Are you having a laugh girl?

I actually reside in what is thought of as the posh part of Bracknell and whilst the town itself is pretty drab, who cares? We have Windsor just up the road. There's a fair racecourse about 2 miles away. There's about 4 more racecourses within easy distance. London is near enough. The airport is up th road. There's four major motorways within about a 30 minute drive.

Quality.
 
My contention is that, regardless of whether you're talking about Basingstoke, Bracknell or anywher similar, people have irrational prejudices against so-called ''new towns.''

Every urban area has its council estates and it's leafier white collar green belts, and where a place is close to can often be as important as the place itself.

London pals of mine who struggle through tube congestion and take longer to get from one side of the old Metropolis to another than it would take me to get a fast train from Basingstoke to Waterloo bang on about how great the quality of life is for THEM.

Yes, great quality, if you have the £1 million plus required to buy a half-decent house in a half-decent area with a half-decent garden.

Like Terry, I'm well placed for transport links, the coast and lots of excellent Hampshire and Berkshire countryside (Watership Down eight miles away, newbury just 14 miles) - why I could even go hunting if I felt the need to see a fox ripped to shreds by hounds in the same of humane culling and rural social event bonding killed (thus seamlessly bringig this thread back on track)... :lol:
 
lots of excellent Hampshire and Berkshire countryside

Hmm.. no wonder your views on rural life are so prejudiced Ian, if that's what you consider to be proper countryside.... it's all far too well-groomed to be the real deal - more like an extended playground for you surburburnites, really! :lol:
 
It's partly imaginery Aidan, stressed by the PR people who are retained by the Countryside Alliance to make their case. Much of that which is put forward by the CA is agreed with by people whether they live in urban or rural areas - environmental matters, preservation of the countryside, public transport, postal and other services for remote areas etc but if the spinners have their way they'd have us believing that all those who support hunting live in idyllic rural surroundings and all those who are against live in Georgian style townhouses in Islington and multi-storey concrete constructions in city centres. Neither of the stereo-typical assertions is true.
 
Originally posted by Songsheet@Sep 10 2004, 01:38 PM
Hmm.. no wonder your views on rural life are so prejudiced Ian, if that's what you consider to be proper countryside.... it's all far too well-groomed to be the real deal - more like an extended playground for you surburburnites, really! :lol:
Oh christ, it's not enough for her that I traumatise myself by driving out of sight of the nearest pedestrianised shopping centre, now that's ''right'' and ''wrong'' countryside for me to be visiting. :lol:
 
For f*cks sake, lighten up Aidan! Davies and I are only having one of our occasional light-hearted digs at one another's beliefs and lifestyles.. well, I am, anyway!
 
If it's not concrete or tarmac then it must be country.

Anyhow, we have proper comedians round here, not that idiot yokel bloke.

Proper rock bands, not the Wurzels.

Huh.
 
You may well be having a light hearted dig Julie, but there is little doubt one of the arguements involved in the fox hunting issue is indeed this idea that the countryside should rule itself and that some how they are so different from the town dwellers. It would be interesting to see it turned to the extreme where country dwellers dont have a say on town issues etc.
 
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