Glorious Goodwood 2020

Backed Circus Maximus in a match bet vs Kameko. Was lucky.

First impressions is the 'racing tactics' from O'Brien's teams is leaving a sour taste in the mouth these days. The bump that Wichita gave the winner to force him into Kameko was blatant as was Vatican City being gunned from the get go to hem in Kameko. Keane did well to spot the antics - he has previous - on Siskin and moved out early. Anyone who backed Wichita and Vatican City (guineas runners up) were punting on domestiques for Circus Maximus.
 
HawkWing said:
The bump that Wichita gave the winner to force him into Kameko was blatant
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I wondered about that incident but I'm not sure there was contact. I need to see it through again. It looked to me like Crowley gave M half an inch of rein and it shot forward faster than Crowley wanted so he hit the brakes, at the same point Wichita edged in to him but it looked to me like either M shied back or was still braking from crowley's manoeuvre. Hard to tell on only a couple of reviews. Either way, M lost further ground dropping back to come round the field and must have real class to overcome that.
 
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Backed Circus Maximus in a match bet vs Kameko. Was lucky.

First impressions is the 'racing tactics' from O'Brien's teams is leaving a sour taste in the mouth these days. The bump that Wichita gave the winner to force him into Kameko was blatant as was Vatican City being gunned from the get go to hem in Kameko. Keane did well to spot the antics - he has previous - on Siskin and moved out early. Anyone who backed Wichita and Vatican City (guineas runners up) were punting on domestiques for Circus Maximus.
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Not as I saw it:
RM set out to make the pace, with the other 2 Coolmores shielding his outside to repel boarders. RM set a strong pace, and had Mohaather not got baulked he would, no doubt have been in the van,too.
Sure enough, Frankie bumped him drifting down the camber, but to suggest it was intentional, is ridiculous .- on so many levels. As it turned out, that hiatus may well have helped M to win the race as; instead of chasing a strong pace he had to regroup, switch to the outside and run down the outside of those in front of him.
 
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I think that was as good a performance that I have seen at Goodwood. His biggest asset apart from his speed is that he is so well balanced, he’s easy to manoeuvre. I appreciate Kameko had a troubled trip and Oisin was very gracious in blaming himself. If the race was rerun with clear passages for both, I’d still expect Mohaather to win.
 
Anyone got any strong views for tomorrow?

I can't make such sense of it.

Breathtaking Look declared for Friday.
 
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Always felt there would be at least one hard luck story in the Sussex.
Siskin given a nice confident ride which I expected would apply to the winner. Clearly the horse has got Crowley out of trouble who was clearly very good.
Shame for Kameko as Murphy had a lot of horse left at the end.
 
Putting this one up early as my gut tells me it will develop into a gamble over the next 36 hours and could go off as short as 9/4.

In Friday's Golden Mile, I think Prompting is a superb bet at 6/1. I've gone in heavily at the price. Despite a 3lbs penalty he's still 6lbs well in and has an inside draw. The main dangers on form are drawn wide and he won going away last time at 7f so has the speed to race just off the pace rather than from further back. Tudhope can't do the weight and doesn't come down for the stablemate.

If this one loses it will hurt...
 
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Desert Orchid said:
Putting this one up early as my gut tells me it will develop into a gamble over the next 36 hours and could go off as short as 9/4.

In Friday's Golden Mile, I think Prompting is a superb bet at 6/1. I've gone in heavily at the price. Despite a 3lbs penalty he's still 6lbs well in and has an inside draw. The main dangers on form are drawn wide and he won going away last time at 7f so has the speed to race just off the pace rather than from further back. Tudhope can't do the weight and doesn't come down for the stablemate.

If this one loses it will hurt...
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I've done his stablemate Baltic Baron (got 25s) but Harry Bentley has switched off mine on to yours .good luck.
 
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Not as I saw it:
RM set out to make the pace, with the other 2 Coolmores shielding his outside to repel boarders. RM set a strong pace, and had Mohaather not got baulked he would, no doubt have been in the van,too.
Sure enough, Frankie bumped him drifting down the camber, but to suggest it was intentional, is ridiculous .- on so many levels. As it turned out, that hiatus may well have helped M to win the race as; instead of chasing a strong pace he had to regroup, switch to the outside and run down the outside of those in front of him.
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You have talked an awful lot of waffle there on so many levels, yet not explained why my contention was wrong. Keane knew the game given the 2000 guineas and Crowley was lucky to have a good enough horse underneath him to correct himself.
 
I'll be taking a chance that having had the Chop Luigi Vampa can put his best foot forward. A lot to like on his seasonal debut despite him being an utter cowbag. Next time out he did the old bucking bronco out of the stalls so obviously going to be interesting one way or the other. 14/1 4 places with Boyles seems like a decent bet providing the problem was between his legs and isn't between his ears.
 
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You have talked an awful lot of waffle there on so many levels, yet not explained why my contention was wrong. Keane knew the game given the 2000 guineas and Crowley was lucky to have a good enough horse underneath him to correct himself.
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OK, have it your way then; a jockey, at the top of his profession, deliberately rode a horse, which he had no real connection with, into another with the express purpose of thwarting the other's chances of winning a race he clearly couldn't win himself, risking injury and possible suspension to engineer a bettter chance for a stable he rarely rides for. as those were his instructions on what was, essentially, a spare ride.
As I said - ridiculous
 
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Not the best day of the meeting,imo.
1.10 Flippa The Strippa Close 3rd in a better race than this last term, outclassed subsequently, except for his seasonal debut which is easily forgiven. Took 14/1 last night, but 9/1 best at the mo.

1.45 Zabeel Champion Won a good h'cap @ Newmarket latest, booking of Ryan Moore a good s1gn. 5/1 taken.

2.45
Think English King is vulnerable on this track and ground, have taken him on with the promising Al Aasy. Bet of the day, for me.
9/2 in places.

4.55 Aklam Express is a rare runner for Nigel Tinkler who is 1 from 2 at the track. Jockey is 3 from 5 for the trainer, so there's little not to like.
5/1 generally.

Luck to all.
 
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A very quiet day for me.

I'm thinking about these but not sure whether to back them other than Lucander which will go on the longshot thread and I'm really only backing him because my main fancy came out.

Looking forward to Friday and Saturday though!!

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Yazaman too short.

Highland Chief too risky with only two places going.

I have a near-dormant account with Betfred ('only when desperate' is my mantra with them) but they're going three places in the big race so I've backed One Voice 16/1 with them. Alpine Star is as good as the fav so why is One Voice representing the stable here? Just curious and curious enough to pay to find out.
 
I've had a good week so far. Card today is generally uninteresting - although the Gordon is an intriguing race on many levels.

Magical Morning EW is probably my only bet.
 
Yes I’ve had a fair week too. 3 winners each day so far and also managed to back Early Doors at Galway. I agree about today though.
1. Flippathestrippa ew
2. I do like Magnetised and I may back Starcat ew
3. Can’t work out AOB 2yos at the moment so will look at Admiral Nelson in paddock. Both Qaader and Yazaman both in my tracker and probably siding with latter.
4. I will retain my faith in English King!
5. I think the favourite will win purely because a) it was obviously given to Donnacha to kickstart his career and b) Ryan picks it over super tough and consistent Magic Wand. But I love Nazeef so she may carry a pound or two of mine.
Last three races don’t really interest hugely so dependent on what sort of day I am having
6 Running Back
7. Miss Chess (half sis to Fancy Blue)
8. Leave
 
No strong fancy today.

Not convinced with the Ballydoyle pair in the Nassau (Magic Wand possibly flattered in the Eclipse and they went passed four abreast in the Diane). Nazeef is an uncertain stayer so I've come down on Deirdre - small win bet.
 
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Danny said:
I'll be taking a chance that having had the Chop Luigi Vampa can put his best foot forward. A lot to like on his seasonal debut despite him being an utter cowbag. Next time out he did the old bucking bronco out of the stalls so obviously going to be interesting one way or the other. 14/1 4 places with Boyles seems like a decent bet providing the problem was between his legs and isn't between his ears.
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I had it between him and Starcat, edging towards Starcat now as that horse has halved in price.
 
jinnyj said:
Yes I’ve had a fair week too. 3 winners each day so far and also managed to back Early Doors at Galway. I agree about today though.
1. Flippathestrippa ew
2. I do like Magnetised and I may back Starcat ew
3. Can’t work out AOB 2yos at the moment so will look at Admiral Nelson in paddock. Both Qaader and Yazaman both in my tracker and probably siding with latter.
4. I will retain my faith in English King!
5. I think the favourite will win purely because a) it was obviously given to Donnacha to kickstart his career and b) Ryan picks it over super tough and consistent Magic Wand. But I love Nazeef so she may carry a pound or two of mine.
Last three races don’t really interest hugely so dependent on what sort of day I am having
6 Running Back
7. Miss Chess (half sis to Fancy Blue)
8. Leave
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May be nothing, but I'd worry about Nazeef, previous 4 Gosden horses have all run poorly, so far?
 
Desert Orchid said:
Yazaman too short.

Highland Chief too risky with only two places going.

I have a near-dormant account with Betfred ('only when desperate' is my mantra with them) but they're going three places in the big race so I've backed One Voice 16/1 with them. Alpine Star is as good as the fav so why is One Voice representing the stable here? Just curious and curious enough to pay to find out.
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One Voice cracking chance Mo no sort of run last time, she's a very nice type I think, tough race obviously but at the prices fair shout. Highland Chief just back him on the nut or forecast him.
 
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