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Exotic Dancer heads Grand National weights
By Racing Post Staff10.32AM 10 FEB 2009
EXOTIC DANCER heads the weights on 11st 10lb for the John Smith's Grand National at Aintree on April 4.

Jonjo O'Neill's Lexus Chase winner has been promoted to the top of the handicap after PaulNicholls officially scratched Cheltenham Gold Cup victor Denman from the race.

The champion trainer had informed the BHA's senior handicapper handicapper Phil Smith on Sunday night to give him to adjust the weights.

Weights for the John Smith's Grand National

EXOTIC DANCER (FR) 9-11-10 Jonjo O'Neill

MADISON DU BERLAIS (FR) 8-11-08 David Pipe

SNOOPY LOOPY (IRE) 11-11-05 Peter Bowen

STAR DE MOHAISON (FR) 8-11-05 Paul Nicholls

NOTRE PERE (FR) 8-11-04 Jim Dreaper IRE

NOZIC (FR) 8-11-03 Paul Nicholls

AIR FORCE ONE (GER) 7-11-02 BCharlie Mann

CLOUDY LANE 9-11-02 Donald McCain Jnr

AFISTFULLOFDOLLARS (IRE) 11-11-01 Noel Meade IRE

WAR OF ATTRITION (IRE) 10-11-01 Mouse Morris IRE

CHELSEAHARBOUR(IRE) 9-11-00 Tom Mullins IRE

IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 8-11-00 Nigel Twiston Davies

SNOWY MORNING (IRE) 9-11-00 Willie Mullins IRE

CANE BRAKE (IRE) 10-10-13 Tom Taaffe IRE

KNOWHERE (IRE) 11-10-13 Nigel Twiston-Davies

ROLL ALONG (IRE) 9-10-13 Carl Llewellyn

COMPLY OR DIE (IRE) 10-10-12 Pipe

GWANAKO (FR) 6-10-12 Paul Nicholls

MONKERHOSTIN (FR) 12-10-12 Philip Hobbs

OLLIE MAGERN 11-10-12 Nigel Twiston-Davies

STAN (NZ) 10-10-12 VenetiaWilliams

BLACK APALACHI (IRE) 10-10-11 Dessie Hughes IRE

HEAR THE ECHO (IRE) 8-10-11 Mouse Morris IRE

ONE COOL COOKIE (IRE) 8-10-11 Charlie Swan IRE

PREISTS LEAP (IRE) 9-10-11 Tom O'Leary IRE

BALLYFITZ 9-10-10 Nigel Twiston-Davies

KING JOHNS CASTLE (IRE) 10-10-10 Arthur Moore IRE

MIKO DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 9-10-10 Robert & Sally Alner

MY WILL (FR) 9-10-10 Paul Nicholls

EUROTREK (IRE) 13-10-09 Paul Nicholls

L'ANTARTIQUE (FR) 9-10-09 Ferdy Murphy

STATE OF PLAY 9-10-08 Evan Williams

BIG FELLA THANKS 7-10-07 Nicholls

MON MOME (FR) 9-10-06 VenetiaWilliams

OPERA MUNDI (FR) 7-10-06 Paul Nicholls

SILVER BIRCH (IRE) 12-10-06 Gordon Elliott IRE

BUTLER'S CABIN (FR) 9-10-05 Jonjo O'Neill

HOBBSHILL 10-10-05 Charles Egerton

OFFSHORE ACCOUNT (IRE) 9-10-05 Charlie Swan IRE

PARSONS LEGACY (IRE) 11-10-04 Philip Hobbs

REVEILLEZ 10-10-04 Jonjo O'Neill

ABBEYBRANEY (IRE) 8-10-03 Howard Johnson

ENDLESS POWER (IRE) 9-10-03 Jim Goldie

FUNDAMENTALIST (IRE) 11-10-03 Nigel Twiston-Davies

GOLDEN FLIGHT (FR) 10-10-03 Nicky Henderson

L'AMI (FR) 10-10-03 Enda Bolger IRE

SIMON 10-10-03 John Spearing

BATTLECRY 8-10-02 Nigel Twiston-Davies

CORNISH SETT (IRE) 10-10-02 Paul Nicholls

FLEET STREET 10-10-02 Nicky Henderson

MUSICA BELLA (FR) 9-10-02 Francois Cottin FR

CAN'T BUY TIME (IRE) 7-10-01 Jonjo O'Neill

DARKNESS 10-10-01 Charles Egerton

IRISH INVADER (IRE) 8-10-01 Willie Mullins IRE

RAMBLING MINSTER 11-10-01 Keith Reveley

SILVERBURN (IRE) 8-10-01 Paul Nicholls

SOUTHERN VIC (IRE) 10-10-01 Ted Walsh IRE

TRABOLGAN (IRE) 11-10-01 Nicky Henderson

ALWAYS WAINING (IRE) 8-10-00 Peter Bowen

GARDE CHAMPETRE (FR) 10-10-00 J Enda Bolger IRE

OEDIPE (FR) 7-10-00 Nicky Henderson

HOT WELD 10-9-13 Ferdy Murphy

KILBEGGAN BLADE 10-9-13 Tom George

BROOKLYNBROWNIE (IRE) 10-9-12 Malcolm Jefferson

CHARACTER BUILDING (IRE) 9-9-12 John Quinn

CONNA CASTLE (IRE) 10-9-12 Jimmy Mangan IRE

HIMALAYAN TRAIL 10-9-12 Jimmy Mangan IRE

PIRAYA (FR) 6-9-12 David Pipe

TUMBLING DICE (IRE) 10-9-12 Tom Taaffe IRE

ARTEEA (IRE) 10-9-11 David Pipe

CERIUM (FR) 8-9-11 Paul Murphy

IDLE TALK (IRE) 10-9-11 Donald McCain Jnr

KELAMI (FR) 11-9-11 Lisa Williamson

ZABENZ (NZ) 12-9-11 Philip Hobbs

ICE TEA (IRE) 9-9-10 Donald McCain Jnr

MALJIMAR (IRE) 9-9-10 Nick Williams

COMPANERO (IRE) 9-9-09 Johnson Howard Johnson

IRON MAN (FR) 8-9-09 Peter Bowen

MATTOCK RANGER (IRE) 9-9-09 Noel Meade IRE

NICHE MARKET (IRE) 8-9-09 Bob Buckler

POMME TIEPY (FR) 6-9-09 Willie Mullins IRE

BAGAN (FR) 10-9-08 Martin Todhunter

BEAT THE BOYS (IRE) 8-9-08 Nigel Twiston-Davies

BIBLE LORD (IRE) 8-9-08 Andrew Turnell

D'ARGENT (IRE) 12-9-08 Alan King

DIX VILLEZ (FR) 10-9-08 Paul Nolan IRE

FLINTOFF (USA) 8-9-08 VenetiaWilliams

PATSY HALL (IRE) 9-9-08 Tony Martin IRE

HOMER WELLS (IRE) 11-9-07 Willie Mullins IRE

IN THE LOOP(IRE) 11-9-07 Roy Wilson IRE

KING HARALD (IRE) 11-9-07 Pie Mark Bradstock

LOTHIAN FALCON 10-9-07 Peter Maddison

NADOVER (FR) 8-9-07 Charlie Mann

OULART 10-9-07 Dessie Hughes IRE

PAK JACK (FR) 9-9-07 Richard Phillips

SEYMOURWELD 9-9-07 Charles Pogson

GALLANT APPROACH (IRE) 10-9-06 Charles Egerton

HOOPY (IRE) 7-9-06 Gordon Elliott IRE

NINE DE SIVOLA (FR) 8-9-06 Ferdy Murphy

TOM SAYERS (IRE) 11-9-06 Philip Hobbs

OODACHEE 10-9-04 Charlie Swan IRE

KINGS ADVOCATE (IRE) 9-9-03 Tom Taaffe IRE

DUN DOIRE (IRE) 10-9-02 Tony Martin IRE

LE TOSCAN (FR) 9-9-02 David Pipe

OUT THE BLACK (IRE) 11-9-02 Philip Hobbs

PUNTAL (FR) 13-9-02 David Pipe

SEA DIVA (IRE) 9-9-02 Dessie Hughes IRE

WITHOUT A DOUBT 10-9-02 Carl Llewellyn

YOU'RE SPECIAL (USA) 12-9-01 Ferdy Murphy

ALEXANDERTHEGREAT (IRE) 11-9-00 VenetiaWilliams

EMMA JANE (IRE) 9-9-00 Willie Mullins IRE

MILANDEUX MILLE (FR) 7-9-00 David Pipe

BALLYTRIM (IRE) 8-8-11 Willie Mullins IRE

ROYAL ROSA (FR) 10-8-11 Howard Johnson

SANDHURST(IRE) 9-8-11 Edgar Byrne IRE

LORD KILLESHANRA (IRE) 10-8-10 Colin Tizzard

LYSANDER (GER) 10-8-10 Ian Williams

MALKO DE BEAUMONT (FR) 9-8-10 Alan Brown

PASS ME BY 10-8-08 Suzy Smith

MONTMISERE (FR) 13-8-07 Paul Murphy
 
Star De Mohaison would be a possible too Mel. Nice weights for my three fancies - Southern Vic, State of Play and Musica Bella, think they'll shorten up over the next few days.
 
Irish Stamp said:
Star De Mohaison would be a possible too Mel. Nice weights for my three fancies - Southern Vic, State of Play and Musica Bella, think they'll shorten up over the next few days.
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Stamp - you've taken my 2 against the field:) Southern Vic and State of Play, the latter being my main fancy at this stage..:whistle:
 
Possible non-stayer I guess but given his stablemates have the Gold Cup sewn up between the three of them they'd be stupid not to have a go - if Sir Robert will run Fadalko etc. in the race then SDM must be worth a shot.

I hope you two have a good record in the National ;)
 
Dreaper seems happy with Notre Pere's weight, I can't see why myself. 8lbs worse off with Cornish Set and no "top of handicap allowance". I'd be surprised if he turned up and absolutely stunned if he won. With all the stats and hoopla about the Grand national, the one thing you do need to be is well handicapped.
 
Melendez said:
Dreaper seems happy with Notre Pere's weight, I can't see why myself. 8lbs worse off with Cornish Set and no "top of handicap allowance". I'd be surprised if he turned up and absolutely stunned if he won. With all the stats and hoopla about the Grand national, the one thing you do need to be is well handicapped.
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Notre Pere's weight would put me off him for sure.
 
I got on Big Fella Thanks at 50`s end of last week ,and very pleased I have. 20`s now and hardening. The jock was very impressed when he rode him last. Fancy this one guys,novice or not.
 
Roddy Owen said:
I got on Big Fella Thanks at 50`s end of last week ,and very pleased I have. 20`s now and hardening. The jock was very impressed when he rode him last. Fancy this one guys,novice or not.
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Are you a trader Roddy?? Would you be tempted to lay off even at this early stage,..or wait till the price shortens a good bit more?? A free bet at 30-1 or thereabouts isn't to be sneezed at:confused:
 
My fancy needs about 40 to come out. I've got work to do! Do you get a penalty for winning anything in between to get up the weights in the national ?
 
PRICEWISE2008 said:
Are you a trader Roddy?? Would you be tempted to lay off even at this early stage,..or wait till the price shortens a good bit more?? A free bet at 30-1 or thereabouts isn't to be sneezed at:confused:
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Yes of course it is better to trade some off,but not yet. I can see this being well bet now. Got my Betfair screen open though.
 
If they send him to the 4 miler I can't see him taking in the National/having a serious chance though Roddy - would trade out now at 22 or so if possible.
 
Silver Birch and King John's Castle look the standouts for me on a very quick look

Also Butler's Cabin has got in off a very low weight but I'm not convinced AP is ever going to win a GN - his riding style just doesn't suit the race either mentally or physically (imho!)
 
Irish Stamp said:
If they send him to the 4 miler I can't see him taking in the National/having a serious chance though Roddy - would trade out now at 22 or so if possible.
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I didn't pay enough attention when Harry Findlay was talking about it on ATR yesterday, but I'm sure he said the GN was the target and it might mean missing Cheltenham. Could be wrong though, anyone else hear it?

I expect this one to be very well backed in the run up to Aintree, can see it going off single figures, I wouldn't be laying off just yet.
 
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He spoke to Lydia on RUK yesterday afternoon and said that he probably wouldn't run him in the NH Chase as he didn't feel the horse was a suitable ride for an amateur.
 
Willies "shrewd" campaigning of Snowy Morning didn't reap the benefits he expected.I would still expect him to run out of his skin but possibly he has too much weight.
Southern Vic is very interesting.Talented on his day-his runs since injury haven't told us much.If Ruby rides him his price will shorten dramatically but you couldn't really see him winning with anyone else in the saddle.I do believe a certain forumite tipped him to win a Grand National on the morning of his first novice chase.
 
PN on Big Fella Thanks:

"Big Fella Thanks won at Doncaster and will run in the Racing Post Chase before Aintree.
Being at the front in small field novice chases wasn't suiting him so I think the National might suit him and he has a nice weight."
 
Would anyone like to guess or give some basis for working out what the lowest numbered horse to get in will be?
 
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