Haldon Gold Cup

Grasshopper said:
EC1, in what way do you think posts like the above, will help you achieve your stated aim of keeping the board busy?

In one post, you are vigorously encouraging people to post, and in the next you are telling Members to go fu*ck themselves (metaphorically speaking).

It's a schizophrenic attitude to have.
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no...here is the problem ..and its highlighted by your above post..you take time out to post that..but don't comment on the sh1t posted by trefuckwit or Viking

its those you should be asking..why is it you never post anything positive towards a poster..but then shove knife in...there is only one reason why people do that...a completely illogical dislike of a username..they should have tablets for that..both the idiots i've mentioned would be on 10 a day

thats where the problem lies..and you are part of it by ignoring those sort of posts but only reacting to my posts

i'm a major poster on here...and have been for a long time..you won't critise them..but use your effort to have another swipe at me

if you are tallking about people needing treatment..why don't you ask how an adult bears a grudge against a username on a messageboard like those two articles do..they the ones that need taking to task here,,not me

i've had enough anyway..i'll leave for the 45th time:)..but this time...i have done..i'm not having it...i don't need it at all..i come here for a laugh..share a few ideas and winners/...i'm not having folk who never interract with me just posting in the negative way as highlighted on this thread
 
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Well done to EC1 and Ricko for a lovely-priced winner.

I missed the race - only just back in - but watch the replay at the JC site and realised when I saw the SPs ticker-taping through that today probably wasn't going to be the day for either PAC or D. Neither was off, the former being kept wide throughout, allowed to lose his place after a while and then being asked to move up again when the pace was quickening, while Dresden was never really put into the race.

The only crumbs of comfort I can take from the race are that the winner was the only other one I considered seriously enough, that the favourite was worth taking on at the price, that I'd thought Dodging Bullets would struggle and that two other analysts whose opinion I value manged to back the winner. I'm pleased for them both and a we bit sorry for GLV's backers as he really gave them a super run for their money. He's probably run better than I'd anticipated.
 
EC1 said:
no...here is the problem ..and its highlighted by your above post..you take time out to post that..but don't comment on the sh1t posted by trefuckwit or Viking

its those you should be asking..why is it you never post anything positive towards a poster..but then shove knife in...there is only one reason why people do that...a completely illogical dislike of a username..they should have tablets for that..both the idiots i've mentioned would be on 10 a day

thats where the problem lies..and you are part of it by ignoring those sort of posts but only reacting to my posts

i'm a major poster on here...and have been for a long time..you won't critise them..but use your effort to have another swipe at me

if you are tallking about people needing treatment..why don't you ask how an adult bears a grudge against a username on a messageboard like those two articles do..they the ones that need taking to task here,,not me

i've had enough anyway..i'll leave for teh 45th time..but this time...i have done..i'm not having it
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EC1, you have basically been spoiling for a fight since the start of the thread, and the culpability is yours alone, as far as I'm concerned.

Calm down, sleep on it, and start posting winners on here again. No-one wants to lose you as a poster, but brow-beating people about their lack of interest, and then having the cheek to say it's their fault if they bite back, is a waste of everyone's time - including yours.
 
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Thank feck for that....attention seeking nonsense.
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oh dear..thats disappopinting to see..you just have to try and be the big man don't you?..well that post makes you look exactly the opposite..a real spineless posting

i'd be checking actually who keeps this forum interesting..it ain't you is it?...the time and effort i have put in through the years..and look at your unnecesary sh1t response....another back stabbing twat aren't you?
 
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EC1 said:
oh dear..thats disappopinting to see..you just have to try and be the big man don't you?..well that post makes you look exactly the opposite..a real spineless posting

i'd be checking actually who keeps this forum interesting..it ain't you is it?...the time and effort i have put in through the years..and look at your unnecesary sh1t response....another back stabbing twat aren't you?
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Nah you're just a lonely bored old man with zero manners. There is never any need to talk to people the way you do on this forum and you do it only to create noise and attention. I actually don't blame you hence why i suggested you should get a dog and get out and get some fresh air. You are probably suffering a bit from being out of work and it happens to many. Manners maketh man.
 
Grasshopper said:
EC1, you have basically been spoiling for a fight since the start of the thread, and the culpability is yours alone, as far as I'm concerned.

Calm down, sleep on it, and start posting winners on here again. No-one wants to lose you as a poster, but brow-beating people about their lack of interest, and then having the cheek to say it's their fault if they bite back, is a waste of everyone's time - including yours.
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i haven't brow beaten anyone..thats just total bollox...shove it anyway..i'm tired of some of the complete muppets on here..its a shame really..the few halfwits ruin things for the rest..its been that way for a long time on here..and such as you won't say owt......but are very quick to just pull me up..you are a biased person imo..i've no time for it
 
The 2016 Haldon Gold Cup; the race when Dodging Bullets showed a glimmer of his past self and ran well for a long way, Garde La Victoire continued to show jumping frailties and is probably best served by a permanent switch back to hurdles and Sir Valentino continued his climb up the the ratings but come the end of the season it'll surely be remembered as the race that produced more wrath than a Clinton Trump debate and saw EC leave the forum (twice).

Well done Ricko and EC for finding the winner.

at least I beat SP :whistle:
 
EC1 said:
i haven't brow beaten anyone..thats just total bollox...shove it anyway..i'm tired of some of the complete muppets on here..its a shame really..the few halfwits ruin things for the rest..its been that way for a long time on here..and such as you won't say owt......but are very quick to just pull me up..you are a biased person imo..i've no time for it
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Post #10 on this thread, when only myself, simmo and Euro had replied:

"...you know..when you read the responses on this thread..there is no wonder very few newcomers would ever start a thread

talk about waste of time and what a load of glass half emptiers there are on this forum

depressing read really

i'm fookin amazed anyone new ever reads the board..ffs lads..deeply boring and depressing really..is this your best work?..really?

fook me if it is"

If you are going to call three long-standing Members time-wasters and their contributions "depressing".......just because they don't fancy a particular race.....then don't bleat like a little girl with a skint knee, if someone chooses to have a pop back at you - especially if they have tried to rationally explain themselves in the interim.

You brought this on yourself. If you're fu*cking off, then good luck with whatever you do next, but you might want to reflect on the genesis of this and previous barneys you have got yourself involved in here.......because as far as I can make out, you have zero self-awareness of your culpability during such exchanges.
 
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Grasshopper said:
Post #10 on this thread, when only myself, simmo and Euro had replied:

"...you know..when you read the responses on this thread..there is no wonder very few newcomers would ever start a thread

talk about waste of time and what a load of glass half emptiers there are on this forum

depressing read really

i'm fookin amazed anyone new ever reads the board..ffs lads..deeply boring and depressing really..is this your best work?..really?

fook me if it is"

If you are going to call three long-standing Members time-wasters and their contributions "depressing".......just because they don't fancy a particular race.....then don't bleat like a little girl with a skint knee, if someone chooses to have a pop back at you - especially if they have tried to rationally explain themselves in the interim.

You brought this on yourself. If you're fu*cking off, then good luck with whatever you do next, but you might want to reflect on the genesis of this and previous barneys you have got yourself involved in here.......because as far as I can make out, you have zero self-awareness of your culpability during such exchanges.
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lets tidy this up with a few facts Grass..because when it comes to me you seem to be lacking in that department..i'll put that down to bias...which seems to be a real issue on here amongst a handful of "followers"

Firstly..there wasn't 3 long standing members..it was you and Euro..Simmo wasn't part of that....and as i highlighted in that link..you both seem to have a history of posting the same old tired stuff..when i post a race thread...that you can't challenge..as its clearly demonstrated in that link.

and yes..those tired old cliches are depressing to me...they mean fook all..and on a October Tuesday..wtf do you expect?..a betfair chase?..and yes..based on past experience the pair of you love putting that negative nonsense up on threads i start

I have no isisues with pop backs..but when it comes to a post like the most recent one from your rottweiller Digger..do you think that is really a pop back?..really?....would you like to be on receiving end of that?..no you wouldn't..but on this occasion..i have let it ride..the issue of him lecturing me on "manners" is fookin laughable in the extreme..he must be the most ignorant poster on here..check out his last 30 posts..every one is a put down of someone or something or some vulgar comment that even makes a man want to be sick reading it..the long winter nights must fly by living with him.

You won't crticise him though..because in simple terms..he's one of the "lads" you meet up with..which is code for..he can say wtf he likes and you will never ever criticise him...and that goes for a few other connections on here..once you meet up with someone and get laddy..you would never criticise them....and thats the sort of bias that really is unpalatable to me when you come on lecturing me about this or that.

I'm very sorry but i haven't brought a reply like that on me..posts like that are completely out of order...maybe you should learn what is and what isn't acceptable on a forum..Digger is a pig ignorant... crude, rude ands miserable so an so just on reading some his sickening posts on this forum..not once have you ever crticised him..so you will have to excuse me not taking seriously for one minute any criticism of me you have..because when it comes to judgement of character..you ain't very good at it. When a few pints with a muppet means your judgement ignores owt that person says..then your judgement is flawed.

You have a real issue with me..as do a few others on here...and its patently obvious..if you read the "tells"..which to someone not actually involved..aren't obvious..but i can read them loud and clear..such as you and your pet Digger are pretty transparent..but i'll wager both of you think you hide your digs in a really clever way..well..they aren't hidden in a clever way..they easy meat to spot

I think you and a few others on here would like the forum to be a nice little reflection of the drunken meet ups you have..and that anyone not involved..is viewed as lesser fodder.

lets see how that pans out when the fodder ain't there to jump on and have a laugh at.

I don't care what views anyone posts here about racing..i'll chew the fat..if they play straight..but you and such as your buddy..don't...when people post like they have on this thread..its out of order...i'd be learning what that means tbh if i were you before lecturing me in any department....even if the person that is out order bought you a pint a few weeks ago..that don't make it right
 
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Well done the winners, and respect to Ricko's very well set out case for backing it.
 
I've just checked the last 20 posts EC1....can;t find anything even rude never mind "sickening" Keep going though....self discovery takes time.
 
well you won't think it will you?

i'd try about 40 then..i never seen you have a good word for anyone or anything you talk about..but i never pulled you for it..like i just know Grass would had it been me

anyway..i'll leave you with it

by the way..this thread has now had half as many posts as the GC one..and people say they don't like arguments..oh yes they do
 
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EC1 said:
You have a real issue with me...........
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You're right, I do.........but it's limited to when I think you're acting like an ar*sehole.

Part of what makes this forum so good, is that - when you meet people on here in real life - your faith in humanity is generally restored, because you find that they are all actually good people, who you can easily make a connection with, through our shared interest. I don't login here for the day-to-day chase for winners (which appears to be your motivation). For me, it's about maintaining those connections through that common interest. That is one amongst many reasons why I (and I'm sure others) post here.

There's more to this forum than your narrow interpretation of what it should be about. Unfortunately, you appear to want everyone to play by your rules, rather than let them decide for themselves how and when they will contribute. It's little wonder that people wholly reject such a notion.

The rest of it its just paranoia - something I've seen before from you. A recurring theme with you, has been an inability to accept disagreement as just that - disagreement. You always seem to view it as a personal attack. Are we all out to get you, or are you perhaps guilty (again) of misinterpreting - or at least over-playing - what others have posted?

Stay or go - it's up to you. Personally, I'd prefer if you stayed, because I think this entire exchange has been totally unnecessary, and you are a valued poster. But if you do choose to stay, you would do well to bear in mind that people will contribute how they please, and that your approval isn't needed in advance.

The forum belongs to all of us; not just daily posters like you.
 
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Well this is a bizarre thread. Well done Ricko and EC for picking out the winner.

I was going to say the bit in italics below, but the suggestion that I might be favouring someone by doing so has kind of put me off. Which is frankly ridiculous, so **** it, I'm saying it anyway.

For the other discussion - I reckon Euro makes a post saying that a race is **** 40 times a year on average. For middle distance Group One's on the flat, he's pretty much guaranteed to do so with the exception of the Arc!!!
 
Actually a good renewal this season (if we'd had this standard of race last year we wouldn't have had the standard EC meltdown-see the first couple of pages of this thread.)

Politologue looks solid but too short to back for me fto. I like Ar Mad but giving the Nicholls grey 8lbs will be tough. GLV surely not good enough and whilst Forest Bihan is a nice type he would have to step up hugely on that Kelso run. Possible, but not for me. I think it's a no bet race, but a fascinating one nevertheless.
 
Ar Mad at 6/1 looks a decent bet to me. Would have gone very close in last year’s Tingle Creek but for belting a couple down the back and that form looks way better than any of the others have achieved. Hopefully he won’t be too buzzy after a year off


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Politologue because PN gave him as one to follow and so did I Duh!!! Actually I don't particularly like the horse and wonder what on earth made John Hales back him so heavily in a well above average JLT

It is simply because PN obviously thinks there's better to come.


Ar Mad would have been a short price for this on his best form but it's a huge ask for him the way he runs his races. He would have to be 100% to win this.

Vibrato Valtat's move to Emma Lavelle could see him bounce back to the form that seen him win the Wayward Lad.

It's as open a race as you could ever hope to see and none can be ruled out
 
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