Happy Slapping

Dear God - had no idea what 'happy slapping' was (a misnomer if ever there was one - like 'joy-riding') and have even less as to meaning of 'daisy-chaining' and not sure I want to be enlightened, either!

I am just so bloody relieved mine has now completed his formal education - what a nightmare it must be for so many parents who do discipline their children properly but yet have to endure them mixing at schools with kids whose parent(s) don't give a toss. Let alone those having to teach these nutters.
 
I ca'nt believe that at the age of twenty I'm about to say something so..... old(!) but there's a serious lack of discipline in the modern education system, and I'm not solely laying blame at the feet of the teachers as I'm aware how easily their lives can be made very difficult by parents etc. HOWEVER surely this kind of behaviour has got to be stamped out straight away. Make it a criminal act and each student who gets caught doing it is reported to the police and then MAYBE they're parents will get off their backsides and discipline their own children before they get a criminal record! (Of course this won't work for the ones who already have a criminal CV that could inspire a new Tarantino movie).
 
I've been wondering lately if this craze of filming criminal offences amongst children might catch on amongst the criminal fraternity. Might make the police's job easier.
 
Good thinking - they could send the clips straight to Crimewatch, cutting out the middle man and saving the cost of the reconstructing actors.
 
AH you should not be surprised at all
after what i read here on this forum about your acknowledged methods of ("a little") beating as a means of bringing up children in britain,
dont you think, that they may learn that a little violence does nothing bad and harm nobody??
 
I read about this daisy chaining, why couldnt this have gone on when i was at school :lol: And this happy slapping i would just love someone to try this on me they would have to be pretty quick to get away from me and then be ready to take a good kicking. :angry:
 
The problem seems to be Fudge, they pick on a particular "type", who are usually on their own and within seconds there are a few of them sticking the boot in so the person being attacked rarely sees it coming.

It is a horrendous, cowardly crime, and I am sure those that get "attacked" suffer both mentally and physically from their ordeal.

All in the name of a bit of a school kids "prank" :angy: Whatever happened to good old scrumping? :blink:
 
AH you should not be surprised at all
after what i read here on this forum about your acknowledged methods of ("a little") beating as a means of bringing up children in britain,
dont you think, that they may learn that a little violence does nothing bad and harm nobody??
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Actually, Wasser, the reverse is in fact probably more the case.

It's interesting to note that this type of 'yoof' crime is far more widespread within the current generation than previous ones (which of course had their own spurts of violence but not as commonplace as exists now).

And maybe the reason it's so endemic today is in fact that kids aren't properly disciplined within their homes. It's the norm in the UK, Wasser, that most parents wouldn't dream of smacking their children and corporal punishment is forbidden in schools of course.

And I guess that the end result is the kind of anarchy that is more and more prevalent - a lot of it involving violence.
 
While a lack of discipline in the home must be a major contributor, I would take a lot of convincing that discipline of a violent nature is a solution to anything.
 
This could spiral off here but let me say now that if I have kids then they will be disciplined with "violence" if necessary.
 
I have only empirical evidence, Brian, namely myself and my fellow siblings. We were spanked or very occasionally hit with a slipper when we were young and I believe it did me only good.
 
Being hit as a child causes nothing but resentment . It is futile and just an outlet for parental anger .
 
He terrorises Broad Street on a regular basis but wouldn't be seen dead in the Bullring ( hasn't it been knocked down anyway)
 
Originally posted by Ardross@May 16 2005, 07:31 PM
He terrorises Broad Street on a regular basis but wouldn't be seen dead in the Bullring ( hasn't it been knocked down anyway)
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I believe the expression that the council uses is "remodelled and refurbished"

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I'm afraid that the kids I've known who get used to a spanking begin (unless it comes close to brutality or sadism - and there's that, too) to view it as a sport to be had with their parents. Certainly a lot of kids I went to school with got slapped enough times at home, but found 'driving Mum mad' quite funny. What they DIDN'T get - and which I did - was having privileges taken away. The family would have a shouting match, Dad would bash the kid two or three times, the kid would bawl and snivel, then they'd all go out to the cinema and the kid got a Coke and sweets. A few days later, the kid would annoy his parents enough for a similar scenario to take place - but he'd never have his (say) Boy Scouts outing, free time with friends, or riding lesson denied, or lose his pocket money. I just don't see that method teaching 'action and reaction' or 'action and consequences' very effectively.

Children need to feel confident of being loved, and being secure, that whatever happens, Mum (and hopefully a Dad, too) will always love them - and early on they need it expressed in tactile ways - hugs, tickling, all kinds of daft games and giggles, being tucked up safely in bed and being given a goodnight kiss. I know parents who fall asleep on their sofas watching television and don't even put their kids to bed properly, let alone give them random little hugs and squeezes and tell them how smashing they are. Eventually, the desperate need for attention - since any attention (i.e. a validation of your existence) is better than none - can go very sour, and the child ends up in all kinds of bad situations.

I don't say that's what's happened in all these cases, because kids are mostly herd animals, led by the Alpha Child, but enough bad behaviour can be laid not just at the feet of parents, but at those of distant, disengaged, self-centred, cold, nagging, undemonstrative and unloving ones. Those who look upon their 'gifts from God' as annoying obstacles to watching telly, going to the pub/club/shops, or chatting endlessly on their bloody mobiles.
 
A smack on the leg will hardly act as a deterrant. If you have 3 children, bury one of them alive and I'll guarantee you the other two will exhibit exemplary behaviour. If that doesn't work crucifixion is a good fall back IMO. Give me 3 boys till they are twelve and I will give you two men.
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