Hope No-ones Intending To Fly This Week....
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Saying that profiling should be used to search people of a certain origin is not racist.
If I was to turn around and call these people names due to their background, or not give them a job due to the colur of their skin (just a few examples), then fair do's i'd be a racist.
The word racist seems to used for pretty much anything a white english person says now.
BrianH
At the Start
Would it be OK with you Craig if the odd tanned Brazilian got caught up in it by mistake?
Bar the Bull
At the Start
Do not feed the troll.
I didn't say they were terrorists, again people jumping on a statement and making it racist.
I said check them as they fit the profile, 99.99% would be ok. We aren't looking for white english people flying to Magaluf.
If they were looking for white men over 30 it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, if it made life easy for other people then i'd be happy to help but again for some reason we have to be sensitive.
Looking at it now, i think it's the white people that cause all the problems. Most asian people would probably be happy to help but you'd have some white english person saying saying how racist it is. All these PC people make the world such a lovely place.
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Ardross
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The PC jibe is commonly used by racists and bigots trying to hide their views behind supposed common sense.
Your point is that on grounds of ethnicity that people from SE Asia should be picked out and checked .
It ignores
a, Muslims are NOT a race . Islam is a religion and there are members from a multifarious range of different ethnic backgrounds . As Brian pointed out Richard Reid was from a mixed race Jamaican-English background. The white Englishman flying to Magaluf might be less likely to be a radical Islamic terrorist but it is not impossible . Indeed , if you were a white radical Muslim what better way to disguise yourself
b, The peoples of SE Asia comprise numerous religions -Hindusim, Sikhism for a start .
In essence , your proposal is to impose wholly unjustified collective punishment and isolationon the grounds of colour of skin. The sort of rubbish that was used to justify internment such that my great grandparents were interned in WW1 for being German whilst their sons fought for Britain on the Western Front :angry:
Moreover , if you want to radicalise more young Muslims then your proposal is a recruiting sergeant .
Your point is that on grounds of ethnicity that people from SE Asia should be picked out and checked .
It ignores
a, Muslims are NOT a race . Islam is a religion and there are members from a multifarious range of different ethnic backgrounds . As Brian pointed out Richard Reid was from a mixed race Jamaican-English background. The white Englishman flying to Magaluf might be less likely to be a radical Islamic terrorist but it is not impossible . Indeed , if you were a white radical Muslim what better way to disguise yourself
b, The peoples of SE Asia comprise numerous religions -Hindusim, Sikhism for a start .
In essence , your proposal is to impose wholly unjustified collective punishment and isolationon the grounds of colour of skin. The sort of rubbish that was used to justify internment such that my great grandparents were interned in WW1 for being German whilst their sons fought for Britain on the Western Front :angry:
Moreover , if you want to radicalise more young Muslims then your proposal is a recruiting sergeant .
Bar the Bull
At the Start
Gbsht
And for once I don't mean Phil.
And certainly not Ardross.
And for once I don't mean Phil.
And certainly not Ardross.
Flagship uberalles
Journeyman
Did you take that quote directly from American History X?
Seems startingly familiar to me. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you do, because you'd no doubt empathise very strongly with Derek's rant at the dinner table.
Euronymous
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Did you take that quote directly from American History X?
Seems startingly familiar to me. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you do, because you'd no doubt empathise very strongly with Derek's rant at the dinner table. [/b][/quote]
Indeed. Brilliant film, and of course Ed Norton`s character renounced his views once he was forced to work with a black man in prison.
Soba
At the Start
Back to the flying for the next few days question SL.
I was due to fly back home later this evening after looking after my dad who has been ill. I decided to change my flight and fly home early saturday morning instead, i'm thinking if i'm delayed at least i will have a full day to still get home.
I do have one somewhat selfish 'mummy' worry though. I am due to fly back over here in ten days time with my three year old. My wee worry is that i usually have to carry sweets for him to chew while the plane takes off and lands, to stop his ears popping and also to stop occasional nose bleeds ( don't ask why this helps to stop his nose bleeding as i've no idea but it does :huh: ) I'm guessing this won't be allowed now will it? Plus i know my little angel of terror will want to know why he is not allowed his crayons and colouring book which he always has when he flies, not sure how i'm going to explain to a three year old about that one
Don't get me wrong as i am taking all of this security deadly serious, it is just one of those mummy questions which i'm sure most travelling mums are dealing with!
Might have to go check out the ferries and train timetables now. I'm sure not complaining mind, what has to be done has to be done in this day and age.
I was due to fly back home later this evening after looking after my dad who has been ill. I decided to change my flight and fly home early saturday morning instead, i'm thinking if i'm delayed at least i will have a full day to still get home.
I do have one somewhat selfish 'mummy' worry though. I am due to fly back over here in ten days time with my three year old. My wee worry is that i usually have to carry sweets for him to chew while the plane takes off and lands, to stop his ears popping and also to stop occasional nose bleeds ( don't ask why this helps to stop his nose bleeding as i've no idea but it does :huh: ) I'm guessing this won't be allowed now will it? Plus i know my little angel of terror will want to know why he is not allowed his crayons and colouring book which he always has when he flies, not sure how i'm going to explain to a three year old about that one
Don't get me wrong as i am taking all of this security deadly serious, it is just one of those mummy questions which i'm sure most travelling mums are dealing with! Might have to go check out the ferries and train timetables now. I'm sure not complaining mind, what has to be done has to be done in this day and age.
Did you take that quote directly from American History X?
Seems startingly familiar to me. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you do, because you'd no doubt empathise very strongly with Derek's rant at the dinner table. [/b][/quote]
Yes i really enjoyed it.
As a non racist white english person, i shall go sit under a stone due to fear of upsetting anyone and then being classed racist.
BrianH
At the Start
Haven't you had enough yet Craig? You're not likely to make any converts to the cause.
Shadow Leader
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You'll have a lot to look forward to then Soba - at least I only have to worry about myself! I'm sure I can manage without a book & an ipod for a couple of hours - just so long as I make it to the races!!!
Flagship uberalles
Journeyman
Well if that's the case, sure we'll just build a huge glass dome over the British Isles, close the borders, and shoot everyone whose family hasn't lived here for 200 years.
Then we've only got to worry about the IRA kicking off again.
Then we've only got to worry about the IRA kicking off again.
simmo
Senior Jockey
I don't know. I quite like Craig's idea. But only if we can add people with limps, hunchbacks (or whatever your goddamn pc phrase for it is), spazzies, Celtic FC players and Australians to the list.
Oh, and judging by that photo we should also be checking anyone with a beard and/or ropey bodywarmers and sheepies.
Oh, and judging by that photo we should also be checking anyone with a beard and/or ropey bodywarmers and sheepies.
BrianH
At the Start
They'd have got him by the name on his passport. It's Bomber from "Auf Wiedersehen, Pet", isn't it?
Soba
At the Start
Can't fault your attitude SL, atta girl!!!
Shadow Leader
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Priorities Soba, priorities......
BrianH
At the Start
In the middle of all this I think it should be mentioned what a good inteligence job the security services and the Met Police special anti-terrorist branch have done. I understand that they were aided greatly by both the US and Pakistan security services.