Jimmy Saville

there is one overtone from all this that keeps getting mentioned in stuff i read about this that is blatently false..it seems some people seem to think that in the sixties and seventies that kiddy fiddling wasn't frowned upon..thats just nonsense as anyone that lived in those times knows full well. It was kept quiet for sure and children didn't get believed but to say that people "in the street" didn't view it the same as they do today is just not true.

I also think that the belief thats its more dangerous out there for children in regard to fiddling today is actually the reverse of the truth..back then there were no fiddlers registers with names on..kids then were far more at threat from it than they are now.
 
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I'd agree strongly with your first paragraph. And maybe it's true that people would be less complacent nowadays about the possibilities of it happening to a child they know. I hope so.
 
trying to guess the line..this won't be it but is amazingly accurate in retrospect

"Whatever you think of him, when he comes to the pearly gates, his scorecard is going to be pretty full."
 
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Yes. The second last line

No one can excuse his behaviour but in a strange way you do have to have sympathy for someone who despite his high intelligence (mensa i recall) and charm, couldnt form proper relationships and could seemingly only see sex in a controlling and frankly perverted way

The dominant mother theme is a recurrent one too isnt it?
 
is it this one?

And, while in interviews he is always at pains to stress that he has had many one-night stands, no one seems to have ever found a woman willing to admit to sleeping with him.

they found a few now
 
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clivex said:
Yes. The second last line

No one can excuse his behaviour but in a strange way you do have to have sympathy for someone who despite his high intelligence (mensa i recall) and charm, couldnt form proper relationships and could seemingly only see sex in a controlling and frankly perverted way

The dominant mother theme is a recurrent one too isnt it?
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you got it Clive i think..i don't remember reading that though
 
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well ec

would we find a woman whos admitted to sleeping with you? i mean, lets be realistic here
 
its the same line you highlighted... i think his scorecard will take some explaining now at the pearly gates....
 
i misread your post initially Clive..there are a few lines in there that would qualify i think

"I went away with him all over the place, we would stay in hotels and so on, and not once did he ever express any kind of sexual interest in another person," he said.



this is going to run and run..people are starting to want to know htf he got away with it when it seems all and sundry knew and many actually witnessed incidents that would have got anyone else hung
 
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EC1 said:
is it this one?

And, while in interviews he is always at pains to stress that he has had many one-night stands, no one seems to have ever found a woman willing to admit to sleeping with him.

they found a few now
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That's the one.
 
Then there's this bit from his own autobiography:

[Savile] writes of an incident at the Mecca Locarno ballroom in Leeds, where he worked as a DJ during the 1950s, when a female police officer came in with a photograph of “an attractive girl who had run away from a remand home”.

Savile writes: “‘Ah,’ says I all serious, ‘if she comes in I’ll bring her back tomorrow but I’ll keep her all night first as my reward’.” He then writes that the girl did go into the club and “agreed that I hand her over if she could stay at the dance, [and] come home with me”. He wrote that he did then hand her over to the “lady of the law…[who] was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues, for it was well known that were I to go I would probably take half the station with me”.
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http://timesopinion.tumblr.com/post/32804536645/jimmy-saviles-affections-laid-bare-by-jimmy-savile

This is the thing that worries me the most - was someone in power protecting him? What dirt did he have on them?
 
his is going to run and run..people are starting to want to know htf he got away with it when it seems all and sundry knew and many actually witnessed incidents that would have got anyone else hung
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Hard to prove (he was clever enough i suspect). Had creepy well paid lawyers who would take money to protect scum and our far too strict libel laws

other than that, it is still surprising

i do remember an interview with him by Lynn Barber a few years back when she came straight out and asked him about "young girls". He was evasive and smart in reply...
 
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The idea that the tabloids were afraid of a libel suit doesn't make sense. What's the worst that could happen? The risk of a £1m payout is small potatoes if they thought they could stand up a story this big. What made Jimmy Savile less pursuable than, say, Elton John (who The Sun had to pay £1m for a libel about rentboys)?
 
Nor does any stuff about "taking people down" The tabloids would not have been affected by some policemans career or anyone elses

he hung around high places but was just that i would guess. A handy clown of sorts

it was probably just due to one needing one person to break through but then they ahve to hope that others will follow. And to many ordinary people against the famous, thats a huge risk

but its still strange
 
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The Sunday Mirror had two victims willing to go on the record in 1994, but claim the story was spiked by the lawyers. If they believed the sources were credible (which they did) they should have run it, lawyers be damned. Hiding behind legal advice is an absolute crock of ****, especially given some of the shameless libels they (and their tabloid brethren) *did* publish.
 
there have been plenty of stories "spiked by lawyers" over the years, not least disgracefully last year. Thats not unusual.

they should have run it of course, we know that now.
 
Tip of the iceberg yet,going to be a lot of sweaty palms around lets hope they round them all up for this to get hidden away for this amount of time there's going to be some big names revealed!!:ninja:
 
Gareth Flynn said:
The idea that the tabloids were afraid of a libel suit doesn't make sense. What's the worst that could happen? The risk of a £1m payout is small potatoes if they thought they could stand up a story this big. What made Jimmy Savile less pursuable than, say, Elton John (who The Sun had to pay £1m for a libel about rentboys)?
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what he said.
 
I think the papers should have looked at what happened to Jerry Sadowitz after he openly called Saville a paedo on the album Gobshite...nothing happened to him at all....Savile didn't pursue that..the album was withdrawn but it still went into the public domain

To me that showed Saville wouldn't have pursued any action against the papers.

The only way that Savile could have had the sort of protection he got was that he knew where the bodies were buried..makes you wonder who his circle of paedo friends included..because its looking like whoever they were had clout in many areas.

he had the keys to Broadmoor ffs..how on earth did that happen?

I wonder what would have happened if Savile had took his computer into PC world..i doubt he would have been exposed like Glitter was
 
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gigilo said:
Tip of the iceberg yet,going to be a lot of sweaty palms around lets hope they round them all up for this to get hidden away for this amount of time there's going to be some big names revealed!!:ninja:
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That K.Clarke sounds a nice chap!!!:ninja: All coming out slowly!!
 
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