Originally posted by EC1@Feb 10 2008, 10:54 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that KS will take Denman apart in the GC on what i've seen up to press.
Talking of false run races...Denman has never produced a speed figure anywhere near KS yet...and has had many chances...does that mean he is a doubtful stayer as well?...as all his races must have been steady run early which usually creates mediocre speed figures......because if they weren't Denman should have recorded at least one big figure before now.
Either Denman has not taken part in a true staying test..or he is not capable of putting up a big speed figure...the Denman backers will be hoping it is the former..if it is the latter he won't place in the GC imho.
Speed figures, schmeed figures - c'mon people, they are not the be all and end all!! The suggestion that the speed figures earned by him either make him a non-stayer (eh?!) or not capable of posting a high speed figure is, to me, a nonsense and just goes to show why I set no store whatsoever by them.
So, that's a new one - Denman doesn't stay?! :laughing: I've heard it all now - as apparently, according to others, Denman is also a "flat track bully" (that's completely aside from the fact that he destroyed the field in a RSA chase and is 3 out of 4 at Cheltenham :suspect: ) and "one paced"
Denman has yet to prove that he can beat Kauto Star but just because he hasn't yet achieved what that animal has done does not mean that Denman isn't capable of beating him, or improving to beat him. It is misleading to take Denman's bare form literally as he has done everything so easily (this season in particular) that no-one knows how much more he could have pulled out of the bag if pressed. There is no doubt that the horse was idling at Newbury, I believe that is why he made one or two uncharacteristic jumping mistakes.
Personally I think 2/1 is an enormous price for the horse in March and have availed myself of some (well, just over that) on the "machine". It's good that we have Kauto Star around to make sure there is such good value available for Denman even only a month before the race! In the absence of KS, Denman would be long odds-on.
I can see the big fella wheeling down the hill 5 or 6 in front still on the bridle....bring it on!