Lincoln Handicap 1/04/2023

Oh I remember Majestic.

I was dead keen on him the race he ran in before the Cambrideshire when I was disappointed with how he emptied out. I was choking to death when I saw how easy he won at Newmarket a week or two later.

Good luck.
 
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I was very surprised to see Ladbrokes/ coral going NRNB.

7 yr olds have a very poor record in this but I had to have a pound ew on 2 7 yr old because I always back them.
BOARDMAN 45/1 with boost.nrnb
BOPEDRO 50/1 early bet.

Empirestateofmind 33/1 is still my main bet and a saver on Montassib .
And I might do Baradar.
 
Crack appretice Benoit De La Sayette booked for Saga.
The horse favours faster ground than he's likely to get Saturday, imo.
 
Backed Croupier last week at 25/1, seems like the right sort and ticks a lot of the trends. Trainer spoke favourably yesterday as well.
 
BROKEN SPEAR could be of interest in the Lincln consolation race.
Finished 5th in the Lincoln last year off 86 (7lb claimer.) beaten just over 2L
Off 82 on saturday with Billy Lochnane on claiming 5lb.
 
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BROKEN SPEAR could be of interest in the Lincln consolation race.
Finished 5th in the Lincoln last year off 86 (7lb claimer.) beaten just over 2L
Off 82 on saturday with Billy Lochnane on claiming 5lb.
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Did you spot Zozimus. Now with you-know-who. Jason Watson down to ride. It's almost certainly really a question of what big mile race(s) will he win this year. Can O'Meara really bring him back from 512 days off to win this?? I don't think any of us would put it totally past him, but equally won't be surprised if this run is with other targets in mind. Surely it will be a run for something else!!

There's a rough precedent, I seem to remember he did it in a valuable York sprint about 5 or 6 years ago, though not from quite so long a layoff.

The 4th in the '21 Cambridgeshire would suggest there are valuable-enough handicaps to be won.
 
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Did you spot Zozimus. Now with you-know-who. Jason Watson down to ride. It's almost certainly really a question of what big mile race(s) will he win this year. Can O'Meara really bring him back from 512 days off to win this?? I don't think any of us would put it totally past him, but equally won't be surprised if this run is with other targets in mind. Surely it will be a run for something else!!

There's a rough precedent, I seem to remember he did it in a valuable York sprint about 5 or 6 years ago, though not from quite so long a layoff.

The 4th in the '21 Cambridgeshire would suggest there are valuable-enough handicaps to be won.
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Yes I did notice Chaum, and it is interesting but ....he cant can he.?
 
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Did you spot Zozimus. Now with you-know-who. Jason Watson down to ride. It's almost certainly really a question of what big mile race(s) will he win this year. Can O'Meara really bring him back from 512 days off to win this?? I don't think any of us would put it totally past him, but equally won't be surprised if this run is with other targets in mind. Surely it will be a run for something else!!

There's a rough precedent, I seem to remember he did it in a valuable York sprint about 5 or 6 years ago, though not from quite so long a layoff.

The 4th in the '21 Cambridgeshire would suggest there are valuable-enough handicaps to be won.
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In Spring Mile with Danny Tudhope aboard - which has to be a positive.
Both fields max 22.
 
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In Spring Mile with Danny Tudhope aboard - which has to be a positive.
Both fields max 22.
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Ah, interesting. JW was showing yesterday. A conspiracy theorist might say there could be a little signpost in that!! Or maybe it was just an error.


Edit Oh, just noticed he's been put in at 10-1 best. Looks like too many others already know or are not prepared to take the chance.
 
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chaumi said:
Ah, interesting. JW was showing yesterday. A conspiracy theorist might say there could be a little signpost in that!! Or maybe it was just an error.


Edit Oh, just noticed he's been put in at 10-1 best. Looks like too many others already know or are not prepared to take the chance.
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Watched a couple of replays and Zozimus certainly has a soft ground action.
Took 10/1 5pl with Betfair.
 
Taken a swing at Montassib (10/1 6pl B365).
Long time jockey booking, well drawn and, according to Wm Haggas will like the ground better than Al Mubhir.
Has an 8lb swing with Wanees for 3/4l at Haydock,too.
 
I liked the look of him too but you could argue Boardman offers the better value of the three on that run and is available at 33/1. The question is the ground but he has a win on heavy to his name though hindsight shows he was well in that day
 
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Watched a couple of replays and Zozimus certainly has a soft ground action.
Took 10/1 5pl with Betfair.
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Gelded since last run aswell, which could see him improve once more.

Another one on the gelding angle is The Gatekeeper, who won his first start last time out after being gelded. Some horses can improve out of all recognition after they have the operation.

That said, the market hasn't overlooked the aforementioned Zozimus and The Gatekeeper. At a bigger price I am considering Billy Mill each way. I think he might be able to step up in a better race and is well enough handicapped.

I backed Atrium earlier today for the main event. It's a competative heat but I think he should relish cut in the ground. There's been suggestions he will need the run and be better for Royal Ascot but that may prove mistaken I reckon, and afterall there's no guarantee he will get cut in the ground in the middle of June.

I have taken my chance.

Good luck all hopefully at least one or two of us land the winner.
 
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I like Billy Mill, too, Marb. On balance, the recent Class 4 form doesn't look good enough. But that Newcastle Class 3 form from last Sept might be enough to get him in the frame. That was a tough race to win, 26k to the winner. Could be he's the type to step up when having to fight against strong(er) opposition. Eagleway would have had him if getting going early enough (I was on at 40-1, mildly gutted at the time!)...and Eagleway was only a few lengths off Johan in last year's Lincoln. I don't see any soft ground form in Billy's history, and it might be a pointer that Rod Millman kept him to the AW all the way through last year, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't handle soft turf if lining up.

Good luck with your runners.
 
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chaumi said:
I like Billy Mill, too, Marb. On balance, the recent Class 4 form doesn't look good enough. But that Newcastle Class 3 form from last Sept might be enough to get him in the frame. That was a tough race to win, 26k to the winner. Could be he's the type to step up when having to fight against strong(er) opposition. Eagleway would have had him if getting going early enough (I was on at 40-1, mildly gutted at the time!)...and Eagleway was only a few lengths off Johan in last year's Lincoln. I don't see any soft ground form in Billy's history, and it might be a pointer that Rod Millman kept him to the AW all the way through last year, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't handle soft turf if lining up.

Good luck with your runners.
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Interesting post.

Yes you too, Chaum.
 
I like looking at trends even though I dont always follow them.but an interesting one is in all races over 1m at doncaster over the years 5yr old or older have never won if they were drawn over 17.
MONTASSIB ,BOARDMAN and BOPEDRO are all drawn above 17.
Which is unfortunate for me as I've backed all 3 a/p.
 
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I like looking at trends even though I dont always follow them.but an interesting one is in all races over 1m at doncaster over the years 5yr old or older have never won if they were drawn over 17.
MONTASSIB ,BOARDMAN and BOPEDRO are all drawn above 17.
Which is unfortunate for me as I've backed all 3 a/p.
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Well, bucking the trend is your forte :)
 
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chaumi said:
I like Billy Mill, too, Marb. On balance, the recent Class 4 form doesn't look good enough. But that Newcastle Class 3 form from last Sept might be enough to get him in the frame. That was a tough race to win, 26k to the winner. Could be he's the type to step up when having to fight against strong(er) opposition. Eagleway would have had him if getting going early enough (I was on at 40-1, mildly gutted at the time!)...and Eagleway was only a few lengths off Johan in last year's Lincoln. I don't see any soft ground form in Billy's history, and it might be a pointer that Rod Millman kept him to the AW all the way through last year, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't handle soft turf if lining up.

Good luck with your runners.
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Eaglesway 14/1 355 chantilly.
 
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