More Corruption?

This is for krizon,i'm quite well known on betfair as i used to post quite a bit but some dodgy characters appeared on there and if you'd looked on there over the last 2 years you wouldv'e seen me confronting them about things you have mentioned.It got to the point where they got my phone number and were sending threatening texts,these people were selling supposed info for cash and had alledgedly jocks in their pockets.Ever since that point the constant abuse i get on there from nowhere is very strange,i make it clear to them that i'm not intimidated by posting on there occasionally, virtually a day will not go by without some snide/vile remark.They were always making references to my heart condition etc,some real pieces of shit.
 
I was also on a forum with one of the others charged,strange thing was myself and two other lads kept track of his supposed info which put up 2/3 winners from almost 40 picks.It absolutely stunk. bearing in mind he was an owner and getting them from the stable put away those lads were on the forum we knew it,but obviously couldn;t prove it.
Amazingly he still shouts his big mouth off on betfair still,a vile person to say the least.:mad:
 
He came on the forum for a month put up loads of picks but then we never saw his arse for dust,he could well have been a very poor judge but even at the time we were adding up his losers as we thought it strange that he could be so wrong.And as it came to pass he was charged and found guilty,i didn't even know till someone mailed me a few days ago and told me the name and he just happened to be mates with the other two charged as well.:lol:
He even gave them a reference on the site for the website they were running
telling the forum what great judges they were.:lol:What a wanker.:D
 
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Thanks for answering Gigilo - it's amazing how many of these corrupt individuals show a loss on their corrupt practices. Sadly some people can't make the game pay whilst playing with a straight bat.
 
The blokes got no shame he put up a winning bet of 30k running on snow dancer on betfair a few weeks ago and he was claiming the race was corrupt:lol: because it drifted like a barge even though there were loads of multiples running on it.If you want to see what sort of person he is look up the poster zippie the hippie on betfair,thinks he's untouchable still.
 
Sorry, Gig, I lost track of this thread, or would've replied to you earlier for the courtesy of your replies. You say you wonder why people don't speak up about any wrongdoing they know about, and there have to be a number of reasons. One is that they're being paid off 'bonuses' to keep their mouths shut, another is that they're in on the game, one more is that they've been intimidated, and another is that they fear they'll lose their jobs and never get into a straight stable afterwards. There are, going by the grimaces and head shaking one encounters from stable staff and even some trainers, plenty who are aware that things are very dodgy at this or that stable, but it's one thing to have a gut feeling, and another to prove it - and usually most folks have more than enough on their own plates without bothering to get embroiled in another yard's nonsense.

For example - Harry Findlay. If you were a good trainer, and this guy was associated with a decent owner you'd got, would you turn him down, even though you knew he was a full-on gambler and might expect his horses to be laid out in a certain manner? It would be very difficult to say no simply on the grounds that he was a really serious punter. So, you take your own gamble and take his horses, hoping to God the man doesn't do anything to bring your own yard into any disrepute... :(
 
What i will say is and i can't totally agree as i've made a good living from betting,but i talk to steve gough i used to go in shares with him 15 years ago before i was betting full time.Steve is worth 40+ million but i spoke to him in his office a couple of weeks ago and he refuses to do form now as he thinks
all the jocks are at it.I think that says a lot that the best pro i've ever known by a mile would say that,even though i argued with him that the majority of form still stands up.Ironically the day i was there he showed me a £250 bet with ladbrokes he did just doing trainers in form and perming them so having two or three picks of trainers per race for 10p stake he won 40k :lol:.
 
Ermm... you wouldn't like to let an old girl know next time he comes up with a sure thing, would you, Gig? I have no need at my advanced age for £40m or anything near it, but after my disasters with breeding foals and the virtual disappearance of a 'low risk' bond with AXA, every little helps! :lol:
 
He won £250,000 on a multiple going through the card at wolves doing two heinzes 10 years ago i had 10% of it i think millions were won on the bets as i know at least 20/30 that did the bet.
 
I'm very pleased for them all, you too. I haven't even won as much as a non-racing, non-horsey pal who hoovered up just under a grand from the Tote, choosing just lucky numbers and lucky names! God knows what she'd have won if she'd had a clue - on the other hand, possibly nothing.
 
There will always be winners on that thread i'm doing and it will be consistently winning,just this time of year lots of small fields on the aw,so i havn't put anything on there for a couple of days.If you have a dabble on them i'll reimburse you at the end of the aw season if you lose.;)
 
That sounds like an amazing win-win situation! Tell you what, Gig, wait 'til I actually get paid for the sale of my flat, and I will be able to have a go or three. I've never known a sale take so flipping long - you'd think I was selling a country estate with a herd of cattle thrown in, it's been so overdrawn (by the buyer's solicitors, it seems, dead keen to ask every question known to mankind in order to earn a bit more in fees). Any day now... I'm supposed to be moving out on the 9th, but not even a sight of a quid yet!
 
Just looked on betfair and the person i mentioned on this thread(one of the five)there's a thread about a poster called stephard(john mc craken) asking his whereabouts and the poster mentioned on here saying he was getting personal messages from him.:lol:The then poster zippie the hippie says he's banned and trying to make out they don't ban the right people :lol::lol:.LMAO Ones banned for 3 years and the other mentioned for life,openly admitting they're in touch on an open forum,what a couple of tools.
 
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John McCracken's mugshot (reminds me a bit of Moby - the musician, not the whale) was shown to all of us at the racecourses, so gate staff could stop the little fellow squirming in. He got into Lingfield wearing a woman's scarf! I think he did it to show that he could. McCracken is warned off for life, isn't he? But if the people who are in contact with him use aliases, then nobody's going to know who they are. I suppose they think it gives them some sort of cred, in the way some old geezers give you a wink and say they were muckers with the Krays. So what? None of them were sharp enough to avoid getting known to the authorities and having their collars felt one way or the other.
 
Didn't do him anygood this supposed ''info'' did it,betfair idiots fawning over him instead you'd think he'd get a lambasting but instead it's admiration,incredible.He's always saying he's lost fortunes etc and how many grammes of coke he can get up his hooter in one night and he's a big mate of findlays most probably because they both do the same awful bets.:lol::lol:
 
Oh yes, Mr Findlay, the tragic victim of... er, well, the tragic victim of himself! If Crackers ever had a fortune at any time, it sure didn't go on his clothes (baggy Primark tracksuit look), but, being a slaphead, it would never have gone on his hairdresser! You know the schtick - I'm a geezer, come up from nothing, I've done so well I can afford to chuck thousands away on silly habits... no, you're just another boringly self-obsessed narner who's come unstuck, and are pathetically trying to paint yourself as some sort of hero. It speaks for how pathetic it is when a few people think it's something clever or desirable - some folks should try and live a life of their own.
 
To be fair to Harry Findlay, he's done a lot more in Horse Racing than anyone on this website will ever achieve so we can hardly sit back and criticise a man who owned one of National Hunts greatest.

Regardless of his personality and upbringing the man has a serious knowledge of Horse Racing backed up by a lot of balls and cash, a position we could all dream of being in.

Instead we sit on Racing forum and moan! - he's having the last laugh really?
 
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The blokes a plonker and wouldn't no value if it slapped him in the face,as for money i don't think he's got much of that either will be back to selling the wifes jwellery again.;)
 
It's an addiction when it's got to that sort of low point, Gigs, but he probably doesn't recognise it in himself.
 
Mr. Curley had a well-backed winner at Wolverhampton this afternoon. First win for Sommersturm in this country after 20-odd runs.

(...and more over-reaction from Chapman)
 
Isn't Mr Curley scaling down his operation - again? and handing over to his assistant - again?
 
JOCKEY Kirsty Milczarek has had her two-year ban for passing on information for rewards and committing fraudulent or corrupt practice quashed by the appeal board.
Milczarek, 31, was one of four jockeys warned off by the BHA in December along with owners Maurice Sines, James Crickmore and their associates Peter and Nick Gold.
Sines, Crickmore andthe Golds had their appeals thrown out on Tuesday.( Racing Post )
 
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