Not looking good across the water
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Sheikh
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I'll sponsor you the flight, It will deposit you in the vicinity of Spain.
Sheikh
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Bring a tent, the funds won't go far enough to cover accomodation. I'll try and get you as close to Mijas as I can to avoid cold turkey.
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Gearoid
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Labour proposal
This can be merged with the other thread named - Not looking good across the Irish sea. Like most proposals this looks like a PR stunt with its timing. All this will do is put an even bigger wedge between the bookmakers and the exchanges as they would no longer be even close to a level playing field.
This can be merged with the other thread named - Not looking good across the Irish sea. Like most proposals this looks like a PR stunt with its timing. All this will do is put an even bigger wedge between the bookmakers and the exchanges as they would no longer be even close to a level playing field.
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Gearoid
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There ir no exact proposal. Just a soundbyte that they will cut the loophole for offshore bookmakers to make them contribute to the levy.
A lot of sterling heading for Ireland this evening after the Brightwells sales. £260k for a winner of a point!! Plenty of prices over £50k for winners of poorish points....one won a three runner point in Galway!! At least the boys will have a few shillings to reinvest at the sales come June/July.
Sheikh
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You can't beat a Gold Cup winner for business ! I have heard of large sums being offered for horses coming 4th and 5th in Novice chases in Ireland.
I think Cheltenham in 2 or three years is going to be bleak for the Irish.
Sheikh
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He's not an unknown quantity anymore and his form at face value is not great. Rising 9 after this Season. Ask again after Punchestown 
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Considerably less than before Howard Johnson's safe was nicked anyway...
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Saw a lovely type at Plumpton for Sarah Humphrey the other week - Johney Foley, was a dual winner (maiden and winners of one) and was bought for 14k. Shocking prices for some of these when there's horses with proven form far cheaper off the flat or out of decent enough bumpers.
Ask again after Punchestown
won't be running there as ground too fast. Off for a little intensive schooling before a break.
The changing fortunes of owners
http://www.independent.ie/business/...lashed-by-up-to-50pc-2154967.html#font-xlarge
Chief O'Neill's Hotel in Smithfield, Dublin, has been sold
By DONAL BUCKLEY Commercial Property Editor
Wednesday April 28 2010
Two hotels have sold in the last few days after their asking prices were halved.
An international hotel group is paying between €8m and €9m.in cash for Chief O'Neill's hotel in Smithfield, Dublin 7. The overseas operator's interest in an Irish hotel will boost the troubled hotel property market as well as Smithfield.
Paul Collins of CB Richard Ellis says that Chief O'Neill's has 73 bedrooms and the property also comes with a café bar and restaurant, conference and banqueting facilities for up to 450 delegates, a 55m high chimney viewing tower, a vacant retail unit and some investment income.
It was developed by Terry Devey who sold it in 2006 to Lar Byrne for around €17.5m. The latter put it on the market two years later with a €21m price tag. However, as the market slowed and at least one deal fell through, he reduced his price.
http://www.independent.ie/business/...lashed-by-up-to-50pc-2154967.html#font-xlarge
Chief O'Neill's Hotel in Smithfield, Dublin, has been sold
By DONAL BUCKLEY Commercial Property Editor
Wednesday April 28 2010
Two hotels have sold in the last few days after their asking prices were halved.
An international hotel group is paying between €8m and €9m.in cash for Chief O'Neill's hotel in Smithfield, Dublin 7. The overseas operator's interest in an Irish hotel will boost the troubled hotel property market as well as Smithfield.
Paul Collins of CB Richard Ellis says that Chief O'Neill's has 73 bedrooms and the property also comes with a café bar and restaurant, conference and banqueting facilities for up to 450 delegates, a 55m high chimney viewing tower, a vacant retail unit and some investment income.
It was developed by Terry Devey who sold it in 2006 to Lar Byrne for around €17.5m. The latter put it on the market two years later with a €21m price tag. However, as the market slowed and at least one deal fell through, he reduced his price.
Is this the fella that owned Saoire and Fracas?
AIB pursues man for €18m in loans for development and investment
A man is being pursued by Allied Irish Banks for €18 million summary judgment orders over unpaid loans allegedly advanced for property developments in Galway, property investment in New York and a bloodstock business.
Because of defects in the bank’s legal documents, Mr Justice Peter Kelly adjourned the bank’s application for transfer of the proceedings against Joseph Joyce and his company, Cahermorris Developments, to the Commercial Court to tomorrow.
AIB is seeking summary judgment for some €2.9 million against the company and is also claiming some €18 million against Mr Joyce, Cahermorris, Corrandulla, Co Galway.
Gary McCarthy, for the defendants, said the bank had not exhibited the correct loan facility letter to ground its claims that €18 million was due. The judge said he would not transfer the proceedings on the current state of the papers and adjourned to tomorrow.
AIB pursues man for €18m in loans for development and investment
A man is being pursued by Allied Irish Banks for €18 million summary judgment orders over unpaid loans allegedly advanced for property developments in Galway, property investment in New York and a bloodstock business.
Because of defects in the bank’s legal documents, Mr Justice Peter Kelly adjourned the bank’s application for transfer of the proceedings against Joseph Joyce and his company, Cahermorris Developments, to the Commercial Court to tomorrow.
AIB is seeking summary judgment for some €2.9 million against the company and is also claiming some €18 million against Mr Joyce, Cahermorris, Corrandulla, Co Galway.
Gary McCarthy, for the defendants, said the bank had not exhibited the correct loan facility letter to ground its claims that €18 million was due. The judge said he would not transfer the proceedings on the current state of the papers and adjourned to tomorrow.
Sheikh
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Sounds like him, same name and Fracas stands in Galway.
Slightly off-topic, (after being thinking about this) speaking in terms of things I would personally change in Irish racing, I think it doesn't have a great pattern to it's season and would like HRI to look at improving this. The 2 year old pattern is good, but for 3 year olds and above, it's quite poor - no mile Group 1, no top sprint races, no 1m4 group 1 (yet 2 at 1m2).
Also, they could look at the atmosphere at Irish courses/facilities etc.
Longchamp for the Arc meeting is as good as flat racing gets - I'm not saying this is easily replicated, but if a racing weekend in France can draw 10000 British racegoers, there must be the potential for Irish racing to do something similar, albeit on a smaller scale.
They have a race in the shape of the Irish Champion which is a real jewel, but they could look at having that, the National Stakes, the 1m fillies race, Irish Leger etc on 1 day/1 weekend. This might address the paucity of french runners in these races as well, and market the weekend as a mini-championship weekend.
Also, they could look at the atmosphere at Irish courses/facilities etc.
Longchamp for the Arc meeting is as good as flat racing gets - I'm not saying this is easily replicated, but if a racing weekend in France can draw 10000 British racegoers, there must be the potential for Irish racing to do something similar, albeit on a smaller scale.
They have a race in the shape of the Irish Champion which is a real jewel, but they could look at having that, the National Stakes, the 1m fillies race, Irish Leger etc on 1 day/1 weekend. This might address the paucity of french runners in these races as well, and market the weekend as a mini-championship weekend.
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Gearoid
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Did you really say no group 1 over 1m 4f? Oh dear.... What has the arc, europes premier race got to do with Irish Racing? Also the Irish Championp Stakes is in my opionion second only to the Arc in terms of prestige.
Yes, but I don't think you understood me - what I mean is the pattern is lacking a little (or unbalanced). I.e. There are two 1m2 Group 1s but none over a mile and a half.
The reference to the Arc was the Arc weekend is the best weekend's racing of the year, a complete success in terms of both racing, and the crowd it attracts, especially from abroad (UK & I). I think it is something HRI could look at as a template to put a real end of season Championship event on in Ireland. It doesn't make sense that the ratio of British racegoers that goto France to watch a flat meeting in Sept/Oct rather than Ireland is around 10/1 (or worse).
I agree with you about the Irish Champion, hence my original point!
The reference to the Arc was the Arc weekend is the best weekend's racing of the year, a complete success in terms of both racing, and the crowd it attracts, especially from abroad (UK & I). I think it is something HRI could look at as a template to put a real end of season Championship event on in Ireland. It doesn't make sense that the ratio of British racegoers that goto France to watch a flat meeting in Sept/Oct rather than Ireland is around 10/1 (or worse).
I agree with you about the Irish Champion, hence my original point!
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Gearoid
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Sorry I had to stop half way down. Are you sure there is no group 1 for 3 yo over 1m 4f?!
(that's only a joke before Galileo goes mental!!)
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Gearoid
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As for the rest of your post - the arc is the arc. It cant be replicated. I care very little about British people going racing in Ireland. Irish racing has far bigger problems but that and the pattern are of no concern.
Harbinger
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