Runs at thurles tomorrow in the bumper,same jockey.probably have to wait until it goes hcap hurdling.
Just a watching brief tomorrow.
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Runs at thurles tomorrow in the bumper,same jockey.probably have to wait until it goes hcap hurdling.
Just a watching brief tomorrow.
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TINY TANTRUM
Fakenham 19 December
New Year's Day Racing At Fakenham Handicap Hurdle (Fakenham Double Up Bonus Race)
2m7½f, Class 4, £4,683.56
Going: Good To Soft
Although the side-on view looked as though Tiny Tantrum was the culprit the head-on must have told a different story since the stewards felt the winner had caused interference just before the last. The two were level pegging at time, albeit the winner looking the stronger, but it cost Tiny Tantrum two or three lengths which was reduced to one by the post. Could have quite easily been awarded the race, I think. The rest were miles behind. Ran off 95 and looks as though he can compete at this level off that.
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the approach to the final hurdle when the winner, LELANTOS (IRE), ridden by Nico de Boinville, interfered with TINY TANTRUM (IRE), placed second, ridden by Jack Quinlan. The Stewards found that the interference had not improved LELANTOS (IRE)’s placing as even though TINY TANTRUM (IRE) lost some momentum as a result of the interference, the gelding was always being held by LELANTOS (IRE) on the run to the line to be beaten by 1¼ lengths. The interference was found to be accidental in that LELANTOS (IRE) shifted sharply right-handed before being quickly corrected, unbalancing and carrying TINY TANTRUM (IRE) off its intended line.
Fakenham 19 December
New Year's Day Racing At Fakenham Handicap Hurdle (Fakenham Double Up Bonus Race)
2m7½f, Class 4, £4,683.56
Going: Good To Soft
Although the side-on view looked as though Tiny Tantrum was the culprit the head-on must have told a different story since the stewards felt the winner had caused interference just before the last. The two were level pegging at time, albeit the winner looking the stronger, but it cost Tiny Tantrum two or three lengths which was reduced to one by the post. Could have quite easily been awarded the race, I think. The rest were miles behind. Ran off 95 and looks as though he can compete at this level off that.
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the approach to the final hurdle when the winner, LELANTOS (IRE), ridden by Nico de Boinville, interfered with TINY TANTRUM (IRE), placed second, ridden by Jack Quinlan. The Stewards found that the interference had not improved LELANTOS (IRE)’s placing as even though TINY TANTRUM (IRE) lost some momentum as a result of the interference, the gelding was always being held by LELANTOS (IRE) on the run to the line to be beaten by 1¼ lengths. The interference was found to be accidental in that LELANTOS (IRE) shifted sharply right-handed before being quickly corrected, unbalancing and carrying TINY TANTRUM (IRE) off its intended line.
Another non trying run.last all the way without breaking sweat and came through the fog to finish 5th.take out the winner and it was only about 8L behind the 2nd.
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That’s just the ticket then. Roll on h’cap.
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Post #10 Run to Milan runs tomorrow Newbury 2:35, early price 14/1 - run into 4th since post
Post #31 On the Ropes runs tomorrow Leopardstown 1:45, early price 9/2
Post #34 Fern Hill runs tomorrow Newbury 3:35, early price 11/4
Run to Milan 4th again - 28/1 and extended place paid out.
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Fern Hill 2nd 11/4
Post #31 On the Ropes runs tomorrow Leopardstown 1:45, early price 9/2
Post #34 Fern Hill runs tomorrow Newbury 3:35, early price 11/4
Run to Milan 4th again - 28/1 and extended place paid out.
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Fern Hill 2nd 11/4
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Leopardstown today (29 December), G1 3m novice chase - Vanillier
That looked a hot race. I had Fury Road second-top rated (to Run Wild Fred) but the fav had already shown improvement from his hurdles form and I half-expected Fury Road to improve past him but I wanted more from Vanillier who still ran well until the jockey stopped asking him to have a go at his fences about a mile from home and he repeatedly lost ground and momentum thereafter, bar maybe at one fence. It's entirely possible Vanillier softened RWF up for the challenge from FR.
I wouldn't give up on Vanillier. He is a lot better than the bare result and will show it as he gets braver at his fences. He's a year younger than the first two, after all.
That looked a hot race. I had Fury Road second-top rated (to Run Wild Fred) but the fav had already shown improvement from his hurdles form and I half-expected Fury Road to improve past him but I wanted more from Vanillier who still ran well until the jockey stopped asking him to have a go at his fences about a mile from home and he repeatedly lost ground and momentum thereafter, bar maybe at one fence. It's entirely possible Vanillier softened RWF up for the challenge from FR.
I wouldn't give up on Vanillier. He is a lot better than the bare result and will show it as he gets braver at his fences. He's a year younger than the first two, after all.
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Leopardstown 29 December - Saint Roi - Deserves a huge mark-up for going a suicidal pace up front and still not beaten far at the line with the other front-runner Petit Mouchoir fading out the back of the telly.
There's a fair chance he won't actually go for the Champion Hurdle but if Epatante is the best JP has over here then I don't see why Saint Roi shouldn't be allowed to take his chance. He might also have a shout off likely top-weight in the County off 155, assuming the handicapper leaves him alone.
Either way, it will be very interesting to see where they go with him now.
There's a fair chance he won't actually go for the Champion Hurdle but if Epatante is the best JP has over here then I don't see why Saint Roi shouldn't be allowed to take his chance. He might also have a shout off likely top-weight in the County off 155, assuming the handicapper leaves him alone.
Either way, it will be very interesting to see where they go with him now.
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HILLCREST
Cheltenham 1 January
Ballymore Novices' Hurdle (Listed Race) (GBB Race)
2m4½f, Class 1, £14,237.50
Going: Soft
I don’t think Nicky Henderson can be wildly adrift in the very high regard he has for I Am Maximus, but Hillcrest just galloped him into the ground after the last leaving the rest of a decent field toiling in their wake. Hillcrest must be some horse, he’s built like a brick blockhouse and a chaser type through and through who has no business winning hurdle races so easily.
He looks as though he’s going to be really something when he’s got fences in front of him and I can’t wait to see him get going.
Cheltenham 1 January
Ballymore Novices' Hurdle (Listed Race) (GBB Race)
2m4½f, Class 1, £14,237.50
Going: Soft
I don’t think Nicky Henderson can be wildly adrift in the very high regard he has for I Am Maximus, but Hillcrest just galloped him into the ground after the last leaving the rest of a decent field toiling in their wake. Hillcrest must be some horse, he’s built like a brick blockhouse and a chaser type through and through who has no business winning hurdle races so easily.
He looks as though he’s going to be really something when he’s got fences in front of him and I can’t wait to see him get going.
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Funambule Sivola
Cheltenham Jan 01
£100k hcap chase, 2,4f+
This was my main bet in the race so I watching it very closely.
My expectation levels were dampened as they jumped off. I was hoping that, with plenty of 2-mile pace in his form, he'd be ridden prominently, something at which jockey Deutsch is very adept, but, alas, he was anchored early. He was in the final three for most of the first circuit and made very gradual ground as they moved out into the country, seemingly travelling very comfortably. When they got to the top of the hill my hopes were starting to rise as he made ground despite a slight error five out. My hopes rose further as he got closer going to out and at this point I was thinking maybe Deutsch had known all along he had the horsepower beneath him but, a shake of the rein and a pathetic wave of the whip in thin air later, he was starting to ease off.
Right now I have no idea if he was being ridden for stamina which, ultimately, he doesn't have, or if he wasn't fit and was looked after accordingly but, either way, I imagine sooner or later we will see what this horse is capable of.
Cheltenham Jan 01
£100k hcap chase, 2,4f+
This was my main bet in the race so I watching it very closely.
My expectation levels were dampened as they jumped off. I was hoping that, with plenty of 2-mile pace in his form, he'd be ridden prominently, something at which jockey Deutsch is very adept, but, alas, he was anchored early. He was in the final three for most of the first circuit and made very gradual ground as they moved out into the country, seemingly travelling very comfortably. When they got to the top of the hill my hopes were starting to rise as he made ground despite a slight error five out. My hopes rose further as he got closer going to out and at this point I was thinking maybe Deutsch had known all along he had the horsepower beneath him but, a shake of the rein and a pathetic wave of the whip in thin air later, he was starting to ease off.
Right now I have no idea if he was being ridden for stamina which, ultimately, he doesn't have, or if he wasn't fit and was looked after accordingly but, either way, I imagine sooner or later we will see what this horse is capable of.
Grand Annual must be the target.
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Destinée Royale
Cheltenham Jan 01
3m2f handicap chase
This was the first of three V Williams horses I backed at the meeting but I missed the race and only just saw the replay. I had heard the trainer refer briefly to the mare's mishap when she was discussing her winner of the following race, L'Homme Pressé, but that was all.
I have to say, I think Destinée Royale would have won. At five out, she had gone a stride clear from the fence before inexplicably tripping herself up. Until then she had been very efficient over her fences bar one of the open ditches, which she reached for both times.
At the time her her fall, she was going better than anything else in the race and looked to me like she was going to stay in front. The eventual winner, Full Back, which I had top-rated but had decided not to back on Thursday evening when it was 14/1 (SP 9/2!), was being scrubbed along to stay with the mare at that point but doggedly withstood all challenges.
I'm not in the least bit convinced he would have got past her.
Full Back will go up maybe 5lbs for the win so I reckon Destinée Royale will be at least that much well in when she next appears in a handicap. She might need to go up a little if they are looking at the Ultima at the Festival and maybe the plan was to take the hit from winning yesterday to ensure she makes the cut so there has to be a chance they will want her to come out and win before the weights come out. Currently off 130, she will qualify for modest Class 3 races and could easily pick one up without having a hard race.
Definitely one to keep an eye out for.
Cheltenham Jan 01
3m2f handicap chase
This was the first of three V Williams horses I backed at the meeting but I missed the race and only just saw the replay. I had heard the trainer refer briefly to the mare's mishap when she was discussing her winner of the following race, L'Homme Pressé, but that was all.
I have to say, I think Destinée Royale would have won. At five out, she had gone a stride clear from the fence before inexplicably tripping herself up. Until then she had been very efficient over her fences bar one of the open ditches, which she reached for both times.
At the time her her fall, she was going better than anything else in the race and looked to me like she was going to stay in front. The eventual winner, Full Back, which I had top-rated but had decided not to back on Thursday evening when it was 14/1 (SP 9/2!), was being scrubbed along to stay with the mare at that point but doggedly withstood all challenges.
I'm not in the least bit convinced he would have got past her.
Full Back will go up maybe 5lbs for the win so I reckon Destinée Royale will be at least that much well in when she next appears in a handicap. She might need to go up a little if they are looking at the Ultima at the Festival and maybe the plan was to take the hit from winning yesterday to ensure she makes the cut so there has to be a chance they will want her to come out and win before the weights come out. Currently off 130, she will qualify for modest Class 3 races and could easily pick one up without having a hard race.
Definitely one to keep an eye out for.
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I did a tricast of Alnadam, Galahad Quest and Simply The Betts in the big handicap chase, DO, and was starting to count the winnings on the run to three-out.
It's an even longer way home from 5-out, and implying a horse would have won from there is surely not much more than guess-work. An awful lot can change in the straight, never mind as they roll down the hill.
That said, I did my absolute brains yesterday, so what do I know? :lol:
It's an even longer way home from 5-out, and implying a horse would have won from there is surely not much more than guess-work. An awful lot can change in the straight, never mind as they roll down the hill.
That said, I did my absolute brains yesterday, so what do I know? :lol:
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I would largely agree, GH, but sometimes your gut tells you different.
I myself was strongly questioning whether Remastered would have won the Hennessy yet was convinced Pic D'Orhy would have won the day before. PDO won next time while Remastered subsequently weakened late on in the shorter Tommy Whittle.
Maybe the euphoria of being right twice recently is clouding my judgment :lol:
Still, I'll be willing to back my judgment with cash (prices permitting) on DR going forward.
I myself was strongly questioning whether Remastered would have won the Hennessy yet was convinced Pic D'Orhy would have won the day before. PDO won next time while Remastered subsequently weakened late on in the shorter Tommy Whittle.
Maybe the euphoria of being right twice recently is clouding my judgment :lol:
Still, I'll be willing to back my judgment with cash (prices permitting) on DR going forward.
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Fair play, DO......gut instinct often serves well.
Timeform have also picked out Destinee Royale as one to watch
Destinee Royale was in the process of running well on her first start since last March when unlucky to fall on her return at Cheltenham. She travelled well in front for much of the contest and looked all set to play a part in the finish when coming down shortly after jumping the fifth-last fence in a race that was eventually won by one of the joint-favourites Full Back.
Although Destinee Royale has just turned nine, she hasn’t had much racing and was making just her sixth start over fences here. Both her chase wins have come on heavy ground, with her latest success coming at Wetherby last season before she signed off with a narrow defeat to Chef d’Oeuvre over three and a half miles at Haydock.
As long as she’s none the worse for her tumble, Destinee Royale looks capable of gaining compensation in another staying handicap in the weeks to come.
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Destinee Royale was in the process of running well on her first start since last March when unlucky to fall on her return at Cheltenham. She travelled well in front for much of the contest and looked all set to play a part in the finish when coming down shortly after jumping the fifth-last fence in a race that was eventually won by one of the joint-favourites Full Back.
Although Destinee Royale has just turned nine, she hasn’t had much racing and was making just her sixth start over fences here. Both her chase wins have come on heavy ground, with her latest success coming at Wetherby last season before she signed off with a narrow defeat to Chef d’Oeuvre over three and a half miles at Haydock.
As long as she’s none the worse for her tumble, Destinee Royale looks capable of gaining compensation in another staying handicap in the weeks to come.
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Reminds me of the punchline to an old joke, the one about the guy buying Tampax for his wife.
Salesman - Can I interest you in a lawnmower?
Customer - I just came in for Tampax, why would I want a lawnmower?
Salesman - Your weekend's fvcked. Might as well cut the grass.
Timeform have just fvcked up any chance of getting a price about DR!
Salesman - Can I interest you in a lawnmower?
Customer - I just came in for Tampax, why would I want a lawnmower?
Salesman - Your weekend's fvcked. Might as well cut the grass.
Timeform have just fvcked up any chance of getting a price about DR!
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Post #1 Hermes Boy runs again tomorrow 3:35 Sandown, early price 11/4 - has run 2nd and won since post
Post #29 Constitution Hill runs tomorrow 2:25 Sandown, early price 4/11 - in everyone’s note book!
Post #49 Adrimel runs tomorrow 1:58 Newcastle, early price 5/4
Upl - comes out of list now
Won 2/5
Non-runner
Post #29 Constitution Hill runs tomorrow 2:25 Sandown, early price 4/11 - in everyone’s note book!
Post #49 Adrimel runs tomorrow 1:58 Newcastle, early price 5/4
Upl - comes out of list now
Won 2/5
Non-runner
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Post #8 Be the Difference runs tomorrow 3:0 Catterick, early price 11/4 - has run WW3 since post and is up 19lbs from post and 11lbs since last win.
Ps: I said after his last run that he’d done enough for now so I think he might struggle again.
3rd confirms finished for now
Ps: I said after his last run that he’d done enough for now so I think he might struggle again.
3rd confirms finished for now
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Another son of Walk in The Park, Walking On Air hasn't been seen out since running second in a Kempton Bumper.
He looked as green as grass that day but there was still a lot to like about the way he travelled before weakening.
Nicky has wrpped him up in cotton wool since
He's only just turned 5 and no doubt his future is over fences but he sould be seen soon in a couple Novice Hurdles before the end of the season
I have him earmarked as one to follow.
He looked as green as grass that day but there was still a lot to like about the way he travelled before weakening.
Nicky has wrpped him up in cotton wool since
He's only just turned 5 and no doubt his future is over fences but he sould be seen soon in a couple Novice Hurdles before the end of the season
I have him earmarked as one to follow.
Maybe the wrong thread but the blinkers go back on Shannon Bridge today (2.47 Wetherby). I know a few on here backed him last time and a comment was made on Racing TV that he’d need headgear to show up better. He’s only 4/1 though so no chances are being taken by the books
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Only looked at this card to see what price Haafapiece was and got suckered into backing Shannon Bridge when I saw the b next to his name. One that got away [emoji2959]
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Two caught my eye in the lanzarote. Actually 3
UP FOR PAROL travelled well put didnt seem to see out the distance.
The other two were the evan William's pair.
Of course I've already forgot their names.edit later.
Considering how the race was run I thought the one ridden by is daughter ran a cracker for a 9 yr old from the position it was in.
The Bowen one was running well but didnt appear to last home..
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it would be interesting if they tried to qualify for the pertemps with Dan's le gent.
UP FOR PAROL travelled well put didnt seem to see out the distance.
The other two were the evan William's pair.
Of course I've already forgot their names.edit later.
Considering how the race was run I thought the one ridden by is daughter ran a cracker for a 9 yr old from the position it was in.
The Bowen one was running well but didnt appear to last home..
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it would be interesting if they tried to qualify for the pertemps with Dan's le gent.
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