Clearly it's not, and with no evidence all he can think of are conspiracy theories. it's strange.
It wasn't meticulously planned. it was no doubt planned in reasonable detail but they didn't even know how to get into the building for god's sake - they had to threaten a woman into inputting the code for them. If she had decided to die rather type the code in, what would have happened then? Probably much less. So let's spare the conspiracy theories of a loony on a day like today. Also, they had to stop a random car near Porte de Pantin to switch cars to get away. Straight away there you have 2 huge points of detail left to chance, which unfortunately favoured these scum. They knew the time of the meeting (weekly I believe) when all the main editors would be there but we could probably have googled that ourselves from the web.
Clearly the point I was making, though sadly you are only able to respond by name calling again, (so please permit me the liberty to suggest that perhaps you're too stupid to have realised it) is that a point is reached where governments and the agencies of protection are no longer perceived to be doing their job to the satisfaction of some members of the population (I made this pretty clear)
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I also think you need to extrapolate out of this the apparent failures of the French intelligence services and the police to protect. Populations will only take so much of this before the more radical elements start to arm themselves and form militias. "
Which bit of this don't you understand? You might of course argue that the police and the French intelligence succeeded in their duties, but it would make an interesting argument to hear, so for now at least I'm prepared to believe they didn't. When this loss of societal confidence starts to take hold, private armies start to form and militias come into fill the vacuum (it doesn't take many to ignite a situation). Can you not see that? It's happened in Europe in the 1930s before, it's happened in Lebanon, Iraq, and it's happening in America today where people with access to weapons start to form their own bands of defenders (albeit they hang out in Montana and seem to be focusing on Democrats at the moment). How long before this growing movement in Germany starts to take on an altogether more privateers function. The question I was raising is how far are from that?
As an observation its from the same stable as those of you who were crying out to go after ISIS a few months ago when I was questioning the wisdom of it. I was suggesting that the role of the European militaries in the future will be trying to defend Europe on European soil for a combination of reasons chief of which will be
1: we ain't got the capacity
2: that's where the threat will be
It's why we need to bring the Russians, Chinese, and Indians into this as the only countries outside of the US capable of projecting global power. This is a slide to ethnic based war with a religion right at the centre of it, and Europe (as has always been the case in recent history) will be right at the centre of it for a combination of geographic and demographic reasons.
As regards the idea of it being meticulously planned Hamm, I think you need to be aware there our own state broadcaster has been telling us this all day, when clearly to any casual observer looking at the evidence in front of them you can see that it wasn't.
The conspiracy, (obviously used as an attempt to try and belittle me which you and Clive have tag teamed) I'll expand on as I don't believe it's anything other than common sense and a natural line of progression. One thing we have learnt since in 9/11 is the glory martyrdom and the importance of going down with the mission. These were people that clearly didn't want that to happen to them. In that regard they're nearer to the Boston bomber than they are the Mumbai attackers. Their MO was to shoot and escape. Self preservation is much more of a western attitude, and it would lead me to think they aren't soaked in the glorious jihad, and more likely so-called "clean skins". They've also spared women so far as I can gather. Certainly the names and faces of the victims who've been reported to us are all men. Again, that's a hint of western influence as jiahdis we've seen elsewhere in the world haven't been too concerned about who they killed and their primary raison d'etre seemed to be to get as many as they could before accepting their own inevitable death. An AK47 has 30 rounds in a mag. Three of them were involved, they could have killed alot more than 12. Look how many the Mumbai killers got through. All of this is believe is periphperal evidence pointing to the likelihood that these could be French born and bred, or certainly naturalised, rather than international terrorists who've been elsewhere in the world. We've seen elements of this type of behaviour in London and Madrid of course where attackers chose to try and survive (remember the ones running through the tube station). There is a bit of me wondering (now this I'll accept is speculation) if they wouldn't have split up immediately after and fled the country
Now if you and your tag team partner want to call that a conspiracy, then fair enough, but it seems a reasonable conclusion to draw to me based on everything else we've observed over the last decade. Even the Woolwich knife attackers hung around to confront the police and did their utmost to be filmed
