Road to the Epsom Derby 2011
- Thread starter Aragorn
- Start date
EC1
On a break
I thought it was an excellent ride by Joseph O'Brien.
And a well-judged, except for the last 10 yards, one by Barzalona.
Hamm, I find it difficult to agree with your opinion and I worry about your life!
is he making daft comments again? :lol:
nowt unusual
bad loser imo
Colin Phillips
At the Start
Hamm don't you remember posting - "I will bet my life those 2 win multiple Group 1s."
Very sorry that you don't think my posts aren't worthwhile.:lol:
Very sorry that you don't think my posts aren't worthwhile.:lol:
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chroniclandlord
Senior Jockey
A very big congrats to Aragorn.
EC,
If you can't acknowledge you were wrong about Carlton House, there is no point debating with you - he is good enough, very much so.
I think most people's posts are missing the point - I think they should re-read Sheikh's point on horses in the Derby.
If you can't acknowledge you were wrong about Carlton House, there is no point debating with you - he is good enough, very much so.
I think most people's posts are missing the point - I think they should re-read Sheikh's point on horses in the Derby.
Sheikh
At the Start
EC1
On a break
looks like i'm missing some comedy gold Colin..i'll have to log out and have a laugh:lol:
EC1
On a break
yes..apparantently beating TB by a bit and losing by a bit is "multiple G1 class"..so what does that make beating him a furlong make a horse?
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Thanks CL - I thought I was beat 2f out... Unreal race to watch.
chroniclandlord
Senior Jockey
It is hard to believe that the Derby runner up was beaten in a Listowel nursery last September.
On The Bridle
At the Start
swedish chef
At the Start
Watched it a couple more times now and the winner does look very classy.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
First post of the thread as well. Proper tipping sir.
EC1
On a break
Indeed.
On another subject, I've never ever seen Ryan Moore so disappointed. I know when I see a 130 horse and I think that is still in the plan for Carlton House. Where he and Pour Moi came from was so so impressive and there is plenty more to come from both.
Has there ever been a more mouthwatering middle distance half season left?
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Sheikh
At the Start
Fantastic ride, never seen anything liked it, stopped riding a couple of times during his charge to let the horse get balanced before driving on again.
swedish chef
At the Start
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Not worth looking at it that way - Treasure Beach I think is a classic example of a horse who was only ever going to fulfill his potential when he raced over 1m4.
Really? Four lengths cover the first seven. All they did was catch up with an obrien second string that is pretty exposed surely? And was hammered last Sept by a genuine class horse
The winner may be alittle better than that but Im not at all convinced by Carlton house now. Seville and Pisco finished well back and those knocking the Dante have been proved right IMO
Four lengths covered them at the end but look at where and how Carlton house and Pour Moi came from. Top, top class, the both of them.
Treasure Beach is not exposed. He couldn't be more unexposed. Again, read Sheikh's posts. This was his first attempt at a trip he was bred for, and just because the market didn't see it that doesn't mean he is a weak link.
Pour Moi was really different class to these. Like Dancing Brave he came from the back and most of us thought too late. It was amazing how he sliced though the field. Carlton House was closing toward the lead,but Pour Moi came from five lengths behind him and passed him like he was standing still.
The winner is much better than the winning distance suggests.
The winner is much better than the winning distance suggests.