Royal Ascot 2022

Marb said:
Yeah not often I would say a six year old flat horse could still improve but West End Charmer is still one horse who is very lightly raced and could find the necessary improvement to go close in the Wolferton.

He wasn't gelded until fairly recently which can always aid more improvement.

I don't think he starts his current price of 20/1 on the day if he starts.
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West End Charmer shortening up as expected.
 
wilsonl said:
I hadn’t seen that you tipped him up Martin and I’d posted something similar on the ante post thread yesterday having taken the 16/1 straight after decs. Fingers crossed.
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No worries, Lee. I hope you are well.

Yeah quiet day tomorrow overall. I like West End Charmer, Pied Piper in the Ascot stakes and Slim and Tan's banker, Cleveland in the Copper Horse stakes.

I will be doing a patent on these for a bit of interest. Mind you, looking at Cleveland's price I cannot see how I can do the above bet each way. It's win only isn't it.
 
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Tuesday:
Quietest day. Can't oppose Baaeed or Coroebus and whilst I have a small position at a big price on Twilight Calls I haven't topped up. Expect one of the foreigners to win that race.
Only bet then is Foxes Tales in an impossible looking Wolferton. I think the top of this market is poor - Harrington, a GATG Regal Reality and a few non-stayers. Foxes Tales narrow defeat by Dubai Honour at the July Meeting last year when he gave the Haggas horse 9lbs is the best recent form in this. I'm on at 12s and 10s.
 
Wednesday 6.10 - Improvised 14/1 (boosted to 15/1), 5 places, BOG - I still fancy the Varian filly but Improvised is officially 10lbs well in so cannot be allowed to go unbacked.
 
Marb said:
I was a little disappointed that I thought Inchicore was going for the Copper Horse. That was my first anti post down the drain
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Second thoughts. It seems Inchicore didn't make the cut, so it should count as a non runner, which is a decent consolation.
 
Gone with an across the meeting Lucky 63

3.40 Wed- Bay Bridge
3.40 Thu- Sea Silk Road
4.20 Thu- Stradivarius
2.30 Fri- Mawj
3.05 Fri- Perfect Power
3.40 Sat- Hurricane Lane
 
I'm already very heavily into a dutch bet with Nature Strip and Golden Pal
but I can't resist having a dutch style double on:-

Black Beard 3/1
Persian Force 3/1

X

Nature Strip 9/4
Golden Pal 7/2

4 X 10 pts doubles
 
Tuesday, for me, in summary (comments written on Sunday relate to my ratings which I'm tight for time for re-formatting & copying):

2.30 - Baaeed looks like starting one of the shortest-priced ever runners here. Currently around 1/5, though, he is anything but betting material. I think I would want my horse to have more than 7lbs in hand before wading in at that kind of price. I’m on Sir Busker at 50/1 ante-post so will get the third place if that’s where he ends up, as he did last year. At 22/1, Order Of Australia is also far too big a price but there are now only two places on offer. I’ll probably look at the market without the favourite on Tuesday morning for any further bets, or a possible match bet between Sir Busker and Chindit (16/1) as I would certainly fancy Sir Busker to win that one.

3.05 - I’ll decide on a bet in this race nearer the off but I’ll probably sit it out. I suspect Moore will opt for Blackbeard and if he’s still 7/2 I might take that for the sake of an interest. I’m not convinced it’s a vintage renewal.

3.40 - I only looked at those rated at least 110 on ORs and/or 120 on RPRs as I can’t see anything else being involved. There’s plenty of hype over Nature Strip (11/4) and Golden Pal (11/4) which dutch at about 10/11 so if the boasts of the supporters of either are accurate it might the kind of bet professionals would be interested in. The only thing is that neither will have faced an uphill five furlongs before, especially the American horse. I’ve taken Man Of Promise at 14/1 (win) as well as 11/1 to five places (Sky Bet). He was very impressive at Meydan in the spring and, according to the form book, is bred to be “a monster” on dirt, in which case he might well simply be better than Golden Pal.

4.20 - Again, I’ve concentrated on the more likely candidates. I’ve gone very high indeed with Mighty Ulysses for that Haydock race. It’s easy to say it was “only a handicap” but I reckon there are very strong grounds for believing it to be extremely good form [for a handicap]. Outgate was third in that race, about five lengths behind the winner. I was very confident that it would win on Saturday and it never really looked in danger, and Saturday’s race was a hot one too. I’ve also backed Angel Bleu (40/1) which is far too long for one of his ability, likewise 50/1 and 66/1 Bayside Boy for similar reasons. Coroebus (4/5) is the most likely winner, obviously, but not my kind of price. I might look at the markets without him on Tuesday morning.

5.00 - I’ve taken Arcadian Sunrise (9/1) with Harry Davies’s claim likely to prove extra-valuable at this trip. I might think about Coltrane (11/1) for similar reasons; the jockey is operating at 31% for the trainer this season and 87.5% placings. I’m also on Themaxwecan (40/1) as a value outsider. I’ll probably back Reshoun (16/1) because it’s top of the table and leave it at that.

5.35 - I’ve taken 25/1 Aristia and will decide on Tuesday what to back it up with. Juan Elcano (17/2), Certain Lad (40/1), Regal Reality (9/1) and Foxes Tales (11/1) are the others for the short list.

6.10 - I’ve taken 50/1 Island Brave (5 places) and 33/1 Red Verdon (ditto) and will decide upon any other bets nearer the time.
 
Stuck at the back of beyond in Wales atm sans internet. On way home soon. Taking on Coroebus with Mighty Ulysses only bet today, although I can’t really see Coroebus being beaten.
 
I've had to back Golden Pal, the price has gone too big. Yes, he might blow out but the case seems to be based largely on his two runs over here which were as a 2yo (who cares) and at York and I can always forgive a bad run at that track. I've got 10/3 and will lay some of my stake off IR sub 2/1
 
Love the Coventry. Obvious cases for the ones at the head.
The Cox one at 20s Scholarship is interesting at an e/w price.

The sprint is going to be some burn up. Arecibo at 50s to pick up some place money late on.
 
I would post mine....but I’d rather after time....:lol:

Good luck all...have a great meeting!
 
That was a proper job that Baaeed beat there. Smashed some fair opponents.

Poor Sir Busker will win fvck all if he keeps starting like that. Would have been fourth but for falling out of the stalls and might have done a wee bit better if he'd followed the far side group.
 
What a beast the Aussie horse is! I even risked a whole fiver on him....:lol:.

As good as they said he was.
 
Tanlic said:
Who are they.....Frankel Secretariat Winx was the order that was accepted by most when they did a virtual Cox Plate.

I watch Aussie racing every other day and I assure you Nature Strip is much better than anything we have at home.
We are talking an Everest winner rated 124 1lb behind Baaeed..we have nothing of that calibre

I don't know how good Golden Pal is but as I posted earlier they wont hear of defeat.

That said here's what a top Jockey in Aus has to say about Nature Strip

"His best is too good, it's as simple as that,"

"He has been the most dominant world-class sprinter for the last two years and we have the best sprinters in the world.

"He only has to be a length off his best to brain them all.

"He is simply the best.

Of course you know better so what's your selection?
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Well done Tan.
 
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